What counts as ethically raised for you?

I used to think vegetarians were illogical cowards, because as you point out dairy causes at least as much harm as meat does. These days, though, I've realized that they're being completely logical: they're causing less harm than they would if they still ate meat, even though their harm isn't zero. A vegan's harm isn't zero either, it's just comparatively negligible. It doesn't have to be black and white.

99% of humans would rather all humans just stop existing rather than us give up meat

also, nothing is stopping backyard chickens from also being abused

You can’t ETHICALLY raise an animal for meat. There is nothing ethical about taking away a life for your tastebuds. Do better, bro.

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It has a mortality rate of 90-100% in chickens. Pretty sure it’s a bit worse than “the avian equivalent of COVID”.

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Ohh... That's what they mean. People kept saying eggs are expensive "because of the pandemic", and I thought it was the same bullshit excuse they were using for jacking up car prices.

Understood. I will continue to be vegan, but with a new interesting fact to look into.

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What they said was incredibly funny, high tier shittalking, so yeah they probably are

So you're saying every plausible option for farming hens on a mass scale is unethical. It's a small flock in the backyard or it's abuse.

it's cardboard with a massive label then a sticker on it.

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Genuinely curious. Elaborate plz.

r/notinteresting

I didn't know season 2 was out so thank you for accidentally letting me know

They're called unhoused chicken these days

You mean run water at a certain pressure in the bowl so it dosent overflow but just casually cleans the potatoes while circulating them with water flow.

Care to elaborate? I always soak my potatoes and stir them to get the starch off before making mashed potatoes.

Yep. In Europe, Milk for example is labeled as, free range % amount of time on grass fields bla bla.

That sticker cost money, and raised the price of eggs.

...almost... if you cut it some more.