Yeah through some comments here and a few DMs it seems that shit record keeping in mass is a running theme. Coming to grips that I might be stuck taking these courses. I have some mildly herniated discs in my neck that I do physical therapy and regular steroid injections for. My doctor is really cool, I might be able to get her to write something up explaining my issue over inflating the idea that I can’t sit in a classroom desk for significant periods of time and see if I can get off going to the in-person classes and take them online that is offered to out of new England drivers. I’ve driven every length of highway in every state in the country. I know the laws better than the instructors of the courses so if I could do it at home or on the road for work where I can just zone out and watch Netflix and not even participate, I could still pass whatever bs test they have at the end. Fingers crossed.

I like Quincy. My favorite town is probably Braintree but I’ll never be able to move there.

Brockton is getting worse. I was born in 1990 in a town that touches Brockton and I went to the vocational school that Brockton goes to so I’ve spent my fair share of time in and around Brockton for the past 33 years. It’s gone downhill and it was already pretty low to begin with. I don’t know what needs to happen.

Truthfully I would be more open to going further west if everyone and everything important to me in my life wasn’t near where I’m located now/if there was a way for me to make the money I make now out west without having to go to Boston and Cambridge. That simply isn’t a possibility. The money is in Boston and Cambridge. Always has been.

Similar thing happened to me over a parking ticket I supposedly got while I was out of the country for 2 years and the car was in CA. But I supposedly got a parking ticket in some town in Western MA. Got arrested in Colorado on a work trip while driving my boss, after the RMV told me I was all set. That was after initially being pulled over and arrested in NY over the “ticket” from 7 years prior. I ended up paying the RMV a bunch of times and still have no idea what happened. Good Luck

Home loaner.........

What r u talking about? If ir talking about the racists purging a new mod and championing it go ahead and enjoy your peers. Thebrest of us trying to enjoy a community arent interested.

Roofs are overrated anyway

Wow a bank robbery movie filmed in Boston, boy that never happens.

what is pro-j6?

I think the victim will be ok although a painful recovery.

And being arrested near the B'town Dunkin Donuts is just ironic ,for sure these weren't the worlds smartest criminals.

Cheers!

I think most tv stations do this, not sure if it will work, but it can’t harm you.

https://www.nbcboston.com/investigations/consumer/nbc-boston-responds/

Sledge bootcamp calls it a workout

why would the minivan return to the scene? Dumb suspects… I hope the victim turns out ok but this sounds like Beavis and Butthead stab a guy.

Not a terrible idea. Who is channel 7? Are they the most popular news outlet with an investigative team? Since meeting my wife(who’s from mass) and subsequently spending time in the state/eventually moving to Nashua we’ve always been cord cutters and haven’t had live television. The only Boston/mass network I’m familiar with is wmur(ch 5 I think) just because I use to use their weather app on my phone before I traveled so much for work.

I agree

I mean. This case might be different, the couple is married too.

I understand imminent danger. I understand that it's better to have alive children than children murdered by their parents.

But this seems insane.

The aunt of the father tweeted this (cited in the articles, not just a random person on twitter).

• Wednesday updates: My nephew and his wife were able to read why CPS felt that the boys were in "imminent danger" (CPS says that has to be believed to do the child extraction). And remember, this is after the pediatrician vouched for them, and the hospital released the baby.

• There were 3 reasons listed:

• 1. "Living in a neighborhood with not enough children." This is straight up punishing parents for not being rich. My nephew and his wife chose a "poor" neighborhood because they are trying to save up for a house, and it was convenient to their work.
• 2. "The mother rolled her eyes when asked a question." Want to know what the question was? Here you go: "How often does your husband neglect his children?" I mean... I would have 100% rolled my eyes. What a manipulative thing to ask.
• 3. The last "evidence" was that "the mother cried when they wanted to give the baby another blood test." CPS said, "Her crying indicated that she was guilty." Keep in mind, they had already done 12 tests on the baby! And he was distressed by it!

If even a fraction of that is true, then what the fuck?

Also, this.

• Something you might be interested to know: As soon as the judge ruled against DCF, DCF promptly asked for a gag order against any discussion of the case with the media. But their request for a gag order was denied (except for the actual court records).

What the fuck?

Nothing that some spackle and a screen door couldn't fix...

This sounds like a good case for some investigative journalism. Call Channel 7 about this government extortion

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This is sad, hilarious, and more believable than being an actual employee.

so I’ve been at the other end of this… I now have custody of my kids… DCF pretty much investigated and then decided their mom wasn’t working out. It was not a good execution of their powers. It was very traumatic for our kids. I’m not saying the kids should have stayed with her but the way they went about the process was unnecessarily traumatic for the children involved with it. I got a call and was told I had 20 minutes or they would be placed in temporary foster care… I lived an hour away and it was 9PM on a Thursday night. I was able to keep things a little sane by explaining that I was on my way forthwith and our kids hung around their grandparents’ house for a few hours… but the “no knock” style of uprooting them has had lasting effects… they’re doing ok now, and I understand why DCF uses their power to protect them but it could have been handled differently.

Edit-there was a lot of drama and police stuff too, but alls well in my case

Probably waived their right to an inspection, too.

From the globe article.

>- In the Waltham family’s case, child welfare workers had a full business day to obtain a court order before they arrived at the home, in the middle of the night. And still they did not seek one.

>- Sabey and Perkins have been sharing their story publicly to bring attention to what they called a flawed process. After the case workers took the children into custody, they later agreed that weekend to place the boys in the care of their paternal grandparents. But Sabey called for greater oversight, saying there was no need for case workers and police officers to take their children in the first place.

It seems like getting a court order for removing a child isn't the norm? Tufts doc (Newton Wellesley) noticed a rib fracture. Social worker didn't like the answers. No court order needed, even if everything is discovered on a Thursday.

Reason Article

Reason has done great stuff on civil asset forfeiture too.

>- After an exhausting gamut of interviews and after DCF workers surveyed Sabey and Perkins' apartment—where no concerns were found—the couple and their children were sent home on July 14 with a DCF safety plan, assuming their ordeal was over.

>- Instead, DCF came to their house in the middle of the night—around 1:00 a.m.—and demanded custody of the children, despite having no court documents approving removal. "It seems everything was deliberately timed to avoid having to get a court order and avoid proving to a judge that the children were in imminent danger," Perkins later wrote. "Their laziness came at the cost of our children's sense of security."

>- While Perkins' parents, who had flown to Boston, were eventually granted temporary custody of the children, it still took nearly a month for Sabey and Perkins to regain full custody of their children. According to the Post, the couple spent over $50,000 in legal fees fighting to convince the state to return their children. They will likely have to spend much more to strike from the record the couple's "supported allegation of child abuse."

July 14 was a Thursday. They should have been able to get a court order, right? Most people don't have $50,000 lying around. Does DCF operate extrajudicialy?

WaPo article

Without paywall

Video of the a cop and some social workers showing up at 1:00 AM on a Saturday.. Then playing stupid and saying they can't do anything until Monday. Frankly, if you're doing this stuff, a judge needs to be available 24/7 365. An adult can spend 2 days in county jail without it being completely traumatic, but with kids? And to make it so obvious you're trying to avoid having to get a court order?

DCF is just saying whatever they want, no records, no nothing? And the cop says "welp, DCF verbalized it". This seems insane. People win lawsuits for unlawful searches all of the time, but the state can take your kids with no due process on the flimsiest of evidence. If "Living in a neighborhood with not enough children." is one of the reasons DCF used as justification for this, then that's fucking insane. And wrong.