Recent comments in /f/massachusetts

homefone t1_jaegtyx wrote

>Sentimentalizing human life

...That's supposed to be bad?

>So…you just selectively edited my post and either didn’t read or didn’t bother to address the rest of it

I did address it. What you wrote seems to imply that people who can't remember their own names etc. have lives not worth living. In that case, yeah, I do find it prudent to point out the fairly obvious eugenic implications of that argument. And, whether you think someone in that condition has the faculty to consent to be euthanized.

>Just like every anti-choice activist on Earth.

I'm still waiting on how this is connected to abortion?

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user72230 t1_jaegp7d wrote

You're the worst kind of undercover narc I have ever seen. Dispensaries are everywhere. Download Leafly or weed maps and GTFO

Edit: OP DMd me, they are 17....underage AF (or so the narc says)

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homefone t1_jaegauh wrote

>that is absolutely their right and you have no business taking it from them.

No it isn't.

>Oh, and it turns out you don’t have to poll the terminally ill or dead to know that you’re talking out of your ass, because the NIH already says you’re wrong: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2652799/

This analysis concerns whether racial minorities and other "vulnerable groups" are targeted for euthanasia. That's not I've been talking about.

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majoroutage t1_jaefpw8 wrote

That's not a good enough reason why the government needs to be involved in making that decision.

My biggest concern, though, is the slippery slope where people may start being denied care to stay living because they're deemed not worth saving. (And for those who will inevitably say "that won't happen" there sure has been a lot of "that won't happen" happening for awhile now.)

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socialist_frzn_milk t1_jaeffc0 wrote

You argued that the availability of assisted suicide will cause more people to commit suicide while completely ignoring that these are not always the only options. “Dignity” is whatever a terminally ill patient decides it is, and if it’s “put a needle in my arm while I am surrounded by family and friends and let me go to sleep peacefully”, that is absolutely their right and you have no business taking it from them.

Oh, and it turns out you don’t have to poll the terminally ill or dead to know that you’re talking out of your ass, because the NIH already says you’re wrong. This study shows there was absolutely no statistically higher risk of disproportionate effect on “at risk” groups: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2652799/

Seems to me that you’re trying real hard not to say “But it makes me feel icky!”

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socialist_frzn_milk t1_jaef276 wrote

So…you just selectively edited my post and either didn’t read or didn’t bother to address the rest of it. Good work. Just like every anti-choice activist on Earth. Sentimentalizing human life and pretending that medical freedom doesn’t matter if it makes YOU personally uncomfortable.

Also, I’d love to know how allowing terminally ill patients to choose their time and manner of death is some sort of “rabbit hole”.

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homefone t1_jaeemc0 wrote

>“Forcefully snuffing out someone’s life” who often cannot remember their own name

This is borderline eugenics. There are a lot of groups of people who can't remember their own name, and therefore, can't consent to be euthanized.

Whether that's a life worth living to me or anybody else is irrelevant, what matters is if euthanasia for the dying is worth the ethical rabbit holes it creates, and I don't think it is.

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homefone t1_jaee5xd wrote

> Oh hey, it’s the same argument people use to argue against reproductive choice.

This is a red herring, and anyways, I support abortion rights.

>No one has argued that every terminally ill person wants to die

I didn't argue that either. I argued that the availability of euthanasia to the terminally ill will encourage people to take that choice, regardless of whether they want to or not.

>I’d love to see some statistics on your assertion that assisted suicide will pressure people into killing themselves.

You can't poll the terminally ill or dead.

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homefone t1_jaedv73 wrote

>You are as free to hold whatever unpopular opinions on end of life decisions you want.

I'm in the majority, however slight. Do you not remember the ballot question we had about this issue not too long ago? The pro-euthanasia side failed. What is unpopular on this subreddit doesn't reflect the Bay State.

>And we are equally as free to boo you.

And you're as equally free to express your dissent and have a meaningful conversation with me like an adult, as I've done with quite a few people here. The whole point of a state subreddit is to have a sense of community and discuss issues with your neighbors. I guess that's too much.

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