Recent comments in /f/massachusetts

Elecrockcity t1_jad34l8 wrote

Do you see how your argument relies on personal attack for effect? The name calling, the straw man, the appeals to emotion?

Look at you, defending the state again like a good little statist. You’re being used. And then you’re pointing at me and crying, “blasphemer! Don’t question the state - they’re granting me agency!”

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Elecrockcity t1_jad2n4z wrote

What about anything I said has - oh Zelenskyy. Triggered you on that one, huh? You focused on that one point and tunnel-visioned the rest like a good little cultist, it seems. You don’t see the manipulation in that? That your immediate instinct is - oh this person doesn’t think like me, must be a Russian bot because otherwise maybe I’d have to consider their point without a lens of bias provided to me by my country’s military industrial complex.

I don’t know what you mean about nuance - I’ve provided a lot of nuance in my responses and so far you’ve ignored them because you’re afraid to acknowledge them.

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Mr-Chewy-Biteums t1_jad2lf0 wrote

Yes, sort of. I could be wrong, but my understanding is that back in the day, Haven was the goth night at Diva's - which was the club upstairs in the building with the Sheriff's office.

Neither are there anymore. Diva's closed a few years ago and the Sheriff's office moved over to an office park near Hospital Hill.

I think Haven has bounced around to a few other clubs over the years.

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Thank you

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THevil30 t1_jad2ixv wrote

Yeah this is the thing. When this last came around I was SO in favor of MaiD because it made sense and the slippery slope arguments all seemed kind of silly.

And then Canada did it and just like skiied all the way down to the bottom of that slippery slope. Every thing the anti MaiD guys were saying was going to happen happened. People being pressured into choosing MaiD to avoid healthcare costs, people who can’t consent getting forced into MaiD, literal commercials for MaiD. It seems to be too much.

I have no issue with it from a moral perspective, and think it’s a choice I’d want to make in certain situations but idk man. The externalities seem bad, and Canada is usually better than the US at these these things.

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3720-To-One t1_jad28k0 wrote

Conservatives really struggle with the concept of consent, don’t you?

And the state wouldn’t be killing anyone.

The state would be allowing people to have agency over their own bodies.

Again, if you don’t want a euthanasia, don’t get one.

But I don’t know who you think you are that you get to force grandpa to suffer a horribly slow and agonizing death over the course of several weeks, when they’d rather just die quickly and peacefully.

But if you’re a masochist, nobody is going to take away your right to suffer.

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Elecrockcity t1_jad1m7b wrote

Permitting the state to assist in the destruction of life rather than the sustainment of it is giving power to the individual? How do you figure? I thought that we were trying to do everything in our power to save grandma from the scary Covid bug - now, grandma can kill herself at her own delusional whim just so the state can save some money on Medicare? That’s awfully kind of you to support on behalf of the state.

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3720-To-One t1_jad0w24 wrote

THEY ARE GOING TO DIE AN EXCRUCIATING DEATH.

Why are you so in favor of state-sponsored torture?

We literally euthanize our pets when their time is done so they don’t have to suffer.

Why can’t you have that compassion for a human, who’s going to die anyways, and who wants to be able to go out on their own terms.

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Miami_Vice-Grip t1_jad0q3v wrote

I don't really view any life generally as anything that special/beautiful. It seems like you are arguing for a position that doesn't hold water. Like, they are only killing themselves because they feel they are a burden? Well two things, they are literally already going to die anyway regardless of their feelings, and they literally are a burden on the others.

Normally the rationale behind not wanting suicides is that the people have more life to live or the issues they have are temporary. Neither of those apply here.

Like I get the instinct to be against it, but it's a unique situation compared to "traditional" suicide. It's also not like anyone is forcing people to die.

If the worry is that others with power of attorney would like, trick people into signing up for MAID or something, that's a whole other issue.

All of this unless I'm not understanding what you're saying correctly

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3720-To-One t1_jad0j9r wrote

You’re right.

Let’s force dying people to needlessly suffer, because letting them go out on their own terms it makes you uncomfortable.

I’m sure if you were the one slowly dying an agonizing death, you’d feel different.

If you don’t want a euthanasia, don’t get one.

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Bustychipmunks t1_jacyzpe wrote

Ok sorry if this sounds judgy but straight men: can you please explain the purpose of this to me? It’s not a whorehouse so you can’t touch. Dispensaries don’t usually allow you to linger so you can’t look. Usually the purpose of the shop is to look and browse through the products but since you can’t try them out, you’re just adding a distraction on top of the shopping.

Are y’all really struggling to see tits this badly?

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