Recent comments in /f/massachusetts

homefone t1_jacqik8 wrote

>Any dying person that wishes to avoid being that terrible burden on the ones that they love have the God given right to make the choice not to be that burden, and government and a falsely polite society have no right interfering with that.

No. Feeling like a burden is not a justification for suicide. It's not normally, and that doesn't change at the end of life. And how will we be certain that every medically assisted suicide will be done to someone that can actually consent to it? Dying people are not known for their mental faculties.

>I've seen enough dying people in my life to know that they ARE a burden

And so, you'd prefer they feel pressured to kill themselves because of it?

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copenhagen120 t1_jacpric wrote

Why not give them the agency to make that decision for themselves? Trust me, not giving them the choice doesn't make it any better.

My father-in-law is terminally ill, and for him the only thing worse than the physical pain is the emotional distress of knowing that his last days will be be a painful drain of emotional and financial resources on himself and the family he's leaving behind.

I really can't emphasize the agency part enough. Getting a terminal diagnosis is so emotionally difficult, partly because you're officially at the end of the line. There's nothing you or anyone else can do to keep the fight going. You've been stripped of agency in your fight to live, and you don't even have the agency to decide to end it if that's what you want. It contributes to the powerlessness of a terminal diagnosis in such an unnecessary way and is heartbreaking to witness.

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copenhagen120 t1_jacp8ek wrote

This is one of those issues that a lot of people feel uncomfortable facing. Lots of slippery slope arguments, religious/moral arguments, etc. Opinions change when you have a dying, suffering loved one who wants nothing more than to end the pain, and isn't able to. I promise, your take on the subject will quickly shift to "it's absolutely unacceptable that someone in terminal pain doesn't have the agency to end their struggle on their own terms".

My father-in-law is terminally ill, and for him the only thing worse than the physical pain is the emotional distress of knowing that his last days will be be a painful drain of emotional and financial resources on himself and the family he's leaving behind.

And I can't emphasize the agency part enough. Getting a terminal diagnosis is so emotionally difficult, partly because you're officially at the end of the line. There's nothing you or anyone else can do to keep the fight going. You've been stripped of agency in your fight to live, and you don't even have the agency to decide to end it if that's what you want. It just contributed to the powerlessness of a terminal diagnosis in such an unnecessary way and is heartbreaking to witness.

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SouthShoreSerenade t1_jacomy4 wrote

>Dying people may view themselves as a burden

I'm going to say something awful.

I've seen enough dying people in my life to know that they ARE a burden, almost universally, when that death is drawn out. A horrible burden, one that saps the strength, the will, the hope, and the light out of the people that care for them.

Any dying person that wishes to avoid being that terrible burden on the ones that they love have the God given right to make the choice not to be that burden, and government and a falsely polite society have no right interfering with that.

Dementia has struck every elderly blood related person on my dad's side of the family. Already I can see it coming for him. I know it will come for me too. I will not let my loved ones have to babysit me while I scream in fear, soil myself, and try to call police on the threatening "intruders" who have loved me their entire lives. It's not happening.

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BrokedownAlice69 t1_jacnozo wrote

Read again… talking about the future. The first pot clubs are about to open in the state. Places will be able to do it this year… not my scene at all. The last thing I want to do when getting high is to look at topless women who are getting stared at like objects. I’ve never had any desire to go to any topless place. Weird

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