Same, I would’ve noticed it’s not my usual person and nothing else

Lol we all know that answer.but whether that's the case or not still a lot of kids will be affected and other after school programs of the like.

I graduated from a tech school and it was the same thing. My bus picked me up at 6:40 and I was one of the later stops😂 some kids caught the bus at like 5:45 to 6 am.

The real question is: what is the priority for schools, academics or athletics?

So you never went to Massachusetts high schools yourself and won’t let your kids go.

But you’re an expert on them more than me (and the hundreds of thousands of households that don’t home school in Mass).

Weird how you think folks who’ve lived here for decades, and who are intimately involved with the schools somehow have zero access or knowledge how MA high schools work.

Cool beans.

Enjoy babysitting your kids. Best of luck.

The district I work at tried to ban cell phones and parents lost their minds. It's too bad, because phones are a huge distraction.

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Can we agree at least that in class learning is far better for kids than zooms learning? Which would mean that teachers are way more important than just being called babysitters.

Derp, yup, my bad, and it's well known that later is better for HS people - towns I'm around it's been 8:30 for a while.

Edit - look at edit in my OP and get back to me about my "correctness"....

Also if you want to be technical if you look at a map of MA, you can call it the armpit if you imagine ma with big muscles and tiny hands

Even where they do have them, they're still expensive. The people most likely to need before and after care are the people who can't afford to have one parent stay home. The costs of before care, after care, vacation care, and summer care are outrageous. Planet Money did an episode on child care and said it's basically a broken market and people are now pushing for the "solution" of parents taking out huge loans for child care like they do for college. It's insane. To have kids these days you have to either be rich enough to pay for everything or poor enough that you don't pay for anything. The middle class just gets screwed.

craigslist calls it the southcoast /shrug

Before/afterschool care is really the key. And it's frustratingly hard in some towns and cities to figure out if they have these programs unless you already have a kid in the schools. We really make some things unnecessarily hard in this state.

Hot? Get the fuck outtaaa hereeeeee. Lol jk

Nobody show this to Tufte.

Poor guy. Did Fashionable Male go under?

Should the start times be relative to the time the sun comes up?

Lol...

I moved to Portugal as a 14 year old...I'd love to see you do better than I did learning every single subject in what amounted to a foreign language for me...but go on and call me stupid. Fine.

You don't know the inner workings of the evaluation process and how they affect what your kid is exposed to and learns in school. And for 15 years I was rated proficient and exemplary, mentoring young teachers and being asked to put on professional development sessions for my coworkers. It's not Wall St...but I feel fulfilled in my attempts, and continue as an educator on my own terms, I teach people that want to learn.

Yes mass schools are great even comparatively worldwide... I think they would be 9th if we were a country...but I know they could be better. It should be better.

I was an AP teacher, in fact I (along with my Academic Coordinator, who also found greener pastures) started the program at my school that had zero AP classes (I'm also certified in ELA, History. Spanish and Portuguese and taught those subjects for the duration of my career in the classroom)...I know there are brilliant kids. Lots.of them, I also know lots of them that ultimately, once the school wasn't there to support them crashed and burned...but it's not the schools making them brilliant or fail...it's their home life and parents that care about their future...and also kids that don't want to be anything like their parents (that's my wife).

I'm not opposed to learning... I'm a life long learner always developing new skills. No stagnancy...I'd like to see more of that and schools in the US feel very apathetic to me from all angles at the moment...the moment being my 14 years in US public school as a student and 15 as an educator and 10 as a parent of 4 kids in public schools.

And for the record I don't believe in God either, nor in any grand narratives.

Edit: hadn't seen the antiwork, starving artist comment...lol.

Also, every year I was approached to "find ways" to get at least one student to the finish line...at least one...and yes, brain dead parents are behind that, no doubt about it...and it's not just at the school I worked at.

Adjusting start times makes sense for kids, but I don't know how anyone expects parents to be able to have multiple children of different ages and get their kids safely to school while holding down full time jobs. People complain that parents want schools to be convenient babysitting programs, but the reality is that we aren't in the 1950s anymore. Mom doesn't sit at home preparing meals and sewing clothes between pick up and drop off at school. Having kids is extremely expensive and forcing one parent (still most likely to be mom) to give up a career and income in order to get kids to and from schools at staggered times is rough. I don't know why this state doesn't have more free before and after care programs. There aren't too many jobs that let you start at 10:00 AM, leave at 2:00 PM, and take several days off per month for random half days and school holidays and closures.

I can understand the appeal of Brunswick, I’ve taken several summer vacations in Harpswell. It’s gorgeous up there. But I can’t stress enough that the winter would likely break you. Especially if you’re coming from California. I can’t imagine how isolated it would feel to be in Brunswick in the winter.

Northampton would be fine, it has a lot to recommend it, but the housing prices are very high compared to surrounding towns.

This is my go to line whenever someone shits on him.

Our local district moved the high school starting time to 8:45 am. Now if they'd only ban cell phones, the students might have adequate attention to stay focused in class.

1. We all have our kids in Mass schools. You act as if we aren’t aware of how they work?

2. You struggled to finish high school? Are not from the US? That explains a bit of your jaded takes.

3. Maybe had you gone to Mass high schools, and been surrounded by peers who go on to top universities (6 of the 12 kids in my calculus class went to Harvard, I went to law school and had a great wall st/big law career) you’d realize you have no goddamn idea what you’re talking about.

Kids are most definitely not just “passed along” in Mass unless they have brain dead parents who wish that to be the case.

Kids who come from well resourced households or households where education is a clear priority thrive and have an absolute abundance of top notch AP courses and extracurriculars to choose from.

Not to mention all of the social benefits that being in school can bring.

But maybe we’re all wrong and maybe a starving r/antiwork starving artist knows better than the all of us. I’m fine with those odds.

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Me too