Maybe support the community if you want the community to support you. Just an idea from the community.

Does waiting 45 years for their access and fields have no negative impact?

I don't want it privatized, but at some point you have to fucking deliver.

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Then get it fucking done already.

It's absolutely political. The billionaire behind this astroturf campaign is trying to change the law so that private entities can develop public land. And he's trying to destroy the Caven Point nature preserve, (which apart from being a crucial wildlife habitat, is a beautiful spot that belongs to everyone), so he can wall it off for his millionaires-only country club.

Every part of that is political. It's 100% political down to the bedrock. And when you support the deeply shitty politics of a billionaire who wants to destroy a nature preserve and take away public land to make a greasy buck off of it, you absolutely deserve a backlash. Because you took a political stance on behalf of a deeply dishonest cause, and now you're being dishonest on top of that by claiming it's not political.

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People on this sub really love their small businesses.

Forcing them to choose between getting paid and cancelling events that are already booked.

902 really should have scrolled through reddit every night after working their ass off in the day to know which clients are permissible by redditors.

No, I support local businesses. It’s different but you seam to be closed minded and unable to empathize with a business owner who clearly didn’t know what they accepted. See the situation, not just the outcome. You’ll be a happier person.

Yes, but if you don't want scummy private interests to make a campaign out of you not fulfilling your promises to a community, you should probably fulfill your promises to a community.

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I just sent an email to 902 expressing my deep disappointment and requesting a response. If I get one, I'll post it. In the meantime, if I'm able, I'll go to tonight's shindig and grouse and bitch. Next step, boycott 902.

The biz I was referring to wasn’t actually hosting an event, just reposting this group’s propaganda. It’s easy to fall for it — a park for the people sounds great.

In the politics/policy world, they call a fake/paid grassroots campaign astroturf. That’s what this group you’re hosting is: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/nyregion/liberty-state-park-nj.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Yeah, but Paul Fireman isn’t running this campaign because he wants soccer fields for local kids. He’s doing it so he can take over part of the park for a golf course that will not benefit our community. To think otherwise is naive at best.

A cause doesn’t have to be overtly political to be, in my opinion, wrong, craven, and disgusting. I’d urge you to read up on this subject. Sorry, but Paul Fireman isn’t pouring money into this fake grassroots campaign because he loves soccer fields. He’s doing it because he wants to take over part of the park to make more money for his golf course, which you and I will never be able to afford to visit. I promise you that if he succeeds, none of the rich people who come to the PGA events will stop at your brewery. They’ll get on the ferry that leaves from his walled-off golf course and go back to Manhattan.

I, on the other hand, live in walking distance! I like your beer! Love when you have an emo band! I’ve spent lots of money at your place. But this kind of thing is a huge turn off.

I’d encourage to read more about the cause you are hosting: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/nyregion/liberty-state-park-nj.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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You don’t need to hear them out, you can go voice your opinion.

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Admitting that you'd take anyone's money because you didn't bother to research and don't care where it's from is not the flex you think it is.

Yup this happened to me on the Grove St platform! Some little old lady started getting real aggressive with me about it…

Ehh not really. Their beer isn’t THAT great

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Well, enjoy losing more business, from actual residents. Whether with the boys after a long day at Cinelease or alone at E and M's, I'll never touch your beer. I love the PATH ipa, but there are other beers that don't support a Billionaire trying to take our park.

In fairness to the Bergen Lafayette community, they've been waiting for better access and rec fields since 1978.

Check out pages 13 & 14.

1978_master_plan.pdf (folsp.org)

I go there pretty often, have enjoyed music on the roof, and make sure to pick up their beer in cans in the local stores, because it is inherently a good thing to support local businesses, but this is a big local issue, and depending upon where they really fall on it - that will absolutely change my habits. There’s more local beer to buy than beer that supports this cause.