I agree that they want to do the right thing, unfortunately, most people are not in a situation to stay and pay for their misdeeds.

I get it.. driving around without plates is ballsy anywhere. Let's pray for balance!

>potentially embolden people to comit hit and runs.

Oh come on. For the vast majority of people, the primary decision between running and stay isn't because of a fear of being caught after the fact. People are generally good people and want to do the right thing.

Sure. Car insurance rates will give us a rough idea, since premiums go up if hit and run identifications go down, as insurance companies wouldn't be able to recover costs from the runner.

Data source

Average insurance premium for states that do not require a front plate: $2215.29

Average insurance premium for states that do require a front plate: $2047.38

An 8% difference, and that's assuming the only reason for the difference is hit and run rates, which is obviously not true. Given that even assuming a worst case and unrealistic scenario only results in a 8% difference, I think it's safe to say that there is no practical difference between the two groups.

Maybe it just blew off? 🤷🏽‍♂️

Hmm could have been PA I guess, I was on Grove ST right outside the tunnel

Giffgaff would have been a good option if you had a few more days for the sim to be delivered https://www.giffgaff.com/freesim-international

Do you have evidence that they are the same?

(we don't work for you for free)

I mean considering that ~50% of hit and runs aren't identified nationally I'd prefer to have anything that can increase the possibility of identification.

Considering that 5 of the states you listed also have the highest occurrence of hit and runs I'd hypothesize that not having a front plate could potentially embolden people to comit hit and runs.

Give me some time I could probably find the data for which states have the most identified hit and runs.

i don't know about you but i can't watch british films without subtitles....

The following states don't require front plates:

• Alabama
• Alaska
• Arizona
• Arkansas
• Delaware
• Florida
• Georgia
• Indiana
• Kansas
• Kentucky
• Louisiana
• Michigan
• Mississippi
• New Mexico
• North Carolina
• Ohio
• Oklahoma
• Pennsylvania
• South Carolina
• Tennessee
• West Virginia

Do you have evidence showing that hit and run identification rates are significantly different between NJ and these sates?

The purpose is to make your car identifiable from both sides. It is useful when you experience a hit and run. It also gives you two points to identify cars in videos specifically dash cams. It also helps police identify cars. Although I don't care about that. The biggest thing is If you hit my car and I only get a view of the front of your car I have the opportunity to identify you.

I know. Still won't run a front plate though.

New Jersey law says you need to have a front and back plate

Eh. I'll keep mine off. Front plates serve no purpose.

Yeah you should definitely still have both plates on. No matter if you think the person pulling you 9ver for not having a plate would have pulled you over even if you had a plate.

Not always. Sometimes the real plate is from a stolen vehicle so you’re really not tracking the right person who should be held accountable. Which, has happened to my parked car & many others on my street. Also, depending on who it may be, sometimes cops abandon a situation. Which has also happened before. “Ranting” on Reddit won’t solve that. But I received my answer to my question, so I do appreciate the time.

Typically if you get pulled over for it, it's because they were going to pull you over for any reason. If you had a front plate, they'd pull you over for something else. It's not really specifically for the plate. The plate just gives them a reason.

We have this this thing called cameras, so when someone with a real plate runs insurance can hunt them down (which has also happened to me and thankfully they were able to track them down).

So do people with real plates. So…?

Yes, because people with fake plates drive like shit and when they hit the rest of us and run off we have no avenue for recourse.

This literally has already happened to myself and others on this sub and it's ridiculous.

What is them not having plates doing to you & your every day life? Does it affect you personally?

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Do you guys have anything better to do?

I've had friends pulled over for it so it depends on the cop.

It is the law in New Jersey and you should definitely put on on the front of your car.