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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_j8f26ru wrote

Reply to comment by Blecher_onthe_Hudson in Electrocuted in my apartment in JC after two years of complaining about the wiring, what next? by fossfirefighter

This is all absolutely correct.

Last I checked MCC cable can be used as ground and if it was installed to code (no gaps and securely clamped to the boxes) should operate as such. I personally put ground pigtails in boxes to outlets/switches for added protection since paint on the outer part of boxes can act as an insulator. I don’t trust the contact a device will have with the box as grounding in these cases, and for $10 I don’t see why I would. Still gfci anywhere I think it can be handy, I go beyond code. I have one near my desk for example where I handle electric devices more commonly.

This sounds like the classic “I wanna break my lease but need a reason so I don’t have to pay” scheme.

They even make online gfci adapters if you want to protect a device and not change the outlet (for renters).

I’d wager 1/4 of apartments in NYC have no grounding on most of their outlets due to being older buildings. It’s hardly uncommon.

And most people will never experience a fault that actually triggers this scenario. Especially with modern day devices.

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karliejai t1_j8f0nqm wrote

Reply to Uber: NJ to NYC by [deleted]

The question is why would there be a nyc TLC car here in JC unless they happened to drop someone off. This is a nyc problem but idk if uber would go out of their way to code these pick up so u get a TLC car going into nyc.

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karliejai t1_j8f06fa wrote

Reply to comment by HappyArtichoke7729 in Uber: NJ to NYC by [deleted]

What? This is an nyc problem with their TLC regulations. Whatever ride you are getting pick up in the city without TLC plates are illegal.

Unlike in other cities, you need a special license from the TLC (Taxi and Limousine Commission) to drive with Uber in New York City.

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ffejie OP t1_j8evszx wrote

Reply to Hey Transit People: We've got to do better than 1 comment about PATH service cuts by ffejie

OK, I'm as guilty as anyone: a keyboard warrior who complains about PATH service (especially nights and weekends) and then managed to not do anything about it.

This slide is taken from the Port Authority proposed budget here: Board / Committee Presentations & Transcripts (panynj.gov) which you can find under 2022 December.

Here's the problem: we have to submit comment to the Port Authority to get heard. Right now, they're saying only 1 person complained about weekend service on PATH. 1 person. ONE. They only got 18 total comments. So if you're reading this and agree, submit a public comment. We'll over run them with complaints about the weekend and night service.

There are a bunch of other informative slides (like this one about the passenger volume) being at 66% of the 2019 numbers, which I would attribute to both the loss of workers going into offices, but also the reduction in service.

https://preview.redd.it/lj07cvqc22ia1.png?width=1281&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b29197d8a33f5e9cd45507203f2e8b428379e217

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Blecher_onthe_Hudson t1_j8egw0j wrote

Reply to comment by fossfirefighter in Electrocuted in my apartment in JC after two years of complaining about the wiring, what next? by fossfirefighter

>there was a short that the electrician resolved.

A short in the outlet box or in the device plugged in? You're not being clear. It's perfectly legal under 'grandfathered code" to have an ungrounded outlet, what's illegal is to put a 3 prong receptacle there that is ungrounded.

Where a lot of confusion arises is whether the metal clad cable is legal to use as ground. The problem is the older cable is not, it does not have the bonding strip inside that later AC cable does. But some people will use the metal box/cable as ground anyway. It will show as properly grounded on a tester, but certain circumstances can fail to conduct enough current to trip the breaker.

A partial solution is to add GFCI receptacles to ungrounded outlets. Not perfect, but safer.

https://ask-the-electrician.com/installing-a-gfci-outlet-without-a-ground-wire/gfi-gfci/wiring-gfi-outlets/

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fossfirefighter OP t1_j8ecpsm wrote

Reply to comment by Blecher_onthe_Hudson in Electrocuted in my apartment in JC after two years of complaining about the wiring, what next? by fossfirefighter

The problem was three prong outlet, ground was physically not connected, and there was a short that the electrician resolved. There are more outlets with that problem now that I've examined them, I didn't know ground was floating before hand.

I'm not an electrical expert, but I do get the basics.

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Blecher_onthe_Hudson t1_j8eb1b3 wrote

Reply to Electrocuted in my apartment in JC after two years of complaining about the wiring, what next? by fossfirefighter

No doubt something happened to you, but I think your understanding of household electricity is lacking. Under normal operation no device will shock you simply due to lack of ground. The only scenario in which you could blame the lack of ground is if the device had a defect or failure and had a short to it's frame, and the frame should have been grounded but wasn't and so became energized without tripping the breaker.

As someone commented, a GFCI circuit protector would likely have prevented this event, current code for new construction required GFCI and AFCI protection on nearly every circuit. This drives up the cost of typical home by at least $2000-3000.

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glo46 t1_j8eaqe7 wrote

Reply to Electrocuted in my apartment in JC after two years of complaining about the wiring, what next? by fossfirefighter

I know it's always easier said than then done, but you've been an apartment for two years knowing you could get seriously injured... I'd suggest looking for another place to live.

Yeah, you shouldn't have to, but there are probably other apartments out there in your price range that won't possibly end your life.

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