The 14PM would be a signifcantly better camera than the 12. If you can comfortably afford the 14PM, then absolutely.

as in it'll still be the norm, so i wont have to worry about lightning being less available

> most casual users don’t upgrade every generation, so lightning will still be more popular among apple users

Why would you be concerned with which cable other people are using?

Camera is improved on the 14, I think? But I do better see your point about skipping the 14. Plus Dynamic Island should be universal for the 15

Yes it is steep but then it fits the contours of the watch casing, I got it because the alpine loop can mark the titanium casing of the ultra. I paid a lot for the watch so figured id look after it with something decent

The point i was bringing up with USB-C was that, like lightning, itll take time to become the standard among apple users as most casual users don't upgrade every generation, so lightning will still be more popular among apple users

and i'm skipping the 14 due to the fact that i can only get the baseline model as the pro models are almost twice the price here for some reason, and given that the iphone 13 and 14 are nearly identical so i don't see why not

12 Pro is a year newer and will therefore last at least a year longer. Also gains you access to the MagSafe accessory ecosystem if you find that interesting. Other than that it’s just a question of what size screen and phone you’re more comfortable with.

Type C will be universal when it debuts, to comply with the EU mandate. There is some rumor that the Pro models will support faster charging and transfer speeds but they’ll all be USBC.

So that is still most likely with the 15 series in Fall 2023. The mandate requires newly manufactured devices sold in 2024 to use USBC, so there’s a non-zero but highly unlikely chance they start with the SE4 in Spring 2024.

I’m not sure why you’re skipping the 14? Since your coming from an Android it makes sense to get the newest device. Unless you mean you’re holding out for the 15 or usbc specifically.

Yeah, same here.

Did all of those already

100% agree with OP regarding camera. I think the 14 Pro is the worst/buggiest iPhone I’ve ever had. Not only is the photo quality worse than my 13 Pro but the amount of software bugs is insane. I can’t even swipe home without lag/glitch.

This is the Pitaka MagEZ Pro case.

That’s deep fusion working. I also hated it but there’s just no way to turn it off. I feel more confident taking photos with my sister’s iPhone 11 rather than my own iPhone 14.

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Most people I see talking about it say they used it for the first week they had the phone and then never touched it again, so I’m guessing it’s just a gimmick apple put in place cause the tech to put all the Face ID sensors and selfie camera under the display, isn’t ready yet.

Personally I always shoot in 48mp pro raw and haven’t had issues. Some people have major camera issues while other devices seem to be okay. Not sure what that’s about

Oh so it actually starts using the electric out of the wall instead of the battery

Use a VPN and buy it in a country where it's cheap, like Turkey

Ahh gotcha, yeah I agree. Something is definitely wrong. I’ll see what apple says.

The problem is oversharpening, the only phone that steers away from that is Xperia. Do you know other?

What's the irony? I don't know any phone that doesn't have Sony sensor.

Irony of your comment, guess who makes the cameras for iPhone….

With this being my first (and prob last) iPhone, I am not balls deep in the eco system. So switching back will not be an issue. I will hold onto it for another year. And yes, either a Pixel or back to Galaxy

I would say get a 7 or maybe even 8. I'm still rocking the 7 but hope to upgrade very soon. They usually go for anywhere from $50-$125 and are still pretty good just for phone calls and texting. It's getting buggy for other things though, but if all you need it for is that, then it should be good! It can run on iOS 15 and still runs pretty smoothly for the most part

I'm not doubting that you're experiencing what you're experiencing. I am, however, asserting that for this to happen, something is drastically wrong with your iPhone. This doesn't happen to other iMessage users.

The only other phone I am considering is a pixel because I have friends who have them and we have taken photos of the same subject and the results are 💯. My problem is I am so god forsaken embedded in this ecosystem.