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submittedanonymously t1_j13tl2s wrote
Reply to comment by GenitalPatton in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
Yo… that’s awesome. Thanks for the idea!
I’m too broke and penniless now to do it, but I will get to it right when I’m old enough to die broke and penniless… shit
(Joke aside, that would be very cool to do and I’m going ti look into it further)
whilst t1_j13tb7f wrote
Reply to comment by bcsimms04 in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
I'd love more information on this but it's proving impossible to google. Got a link?
ClapAlongChorus t1_j13sxwr wrote
Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
correct, entirely possible because the ship and sanitary canal connect the two seperate watersheds in 1900. Before that, there was not a navigable connection between the chicago and the des plaines.
edit: actually the calumet canal connects the south branch to the des plaines river, I think, but I know less about it, other
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Reply to How were early Victorian Steam Locomotive Drivers trained and Recruited? by DearGiraffe6168
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PuraVida3 t1_j13snn8 wrote
Reply to comment by drunkenknight9 in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
I understood exactly what it meant. The landlocked just don't understand the terminologies.
Macncheesecatcoffee t1_j13se33 wrote
Reply to comment by Rum____Ham in How were early Victorian Steam Locomotive Drivers trained and Recruited? by DearGiraffe6168
Elite of the working class.
ClapAlongChorus t1_j13rz9a wrote
Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
hey Obiwan, I think you're misreading the definition of navigable. Up until 1900 with the completion of the of the chicago ship and sanitary canal, there was no connection between the Des Plaines / Illinois River and the Chicago River / Lake Michigan.
Is the divide between the two watersheds very low in elevation? Yes. Was the Chicagoland area a low swamp where travelers often picked up their canoe to get from one waterway to the other? Yes. Could you travel in a boat, without getting out of the boat, with water under the entire boat enough to keep the boat floating, from Lake Michigan to the Des Plaines / Illinois River system? Nope. That is why chicago played engineer with the chicago river.
fleebleganger t1_j13rqac wrote
Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
Perhaps but montana to the gulf is farther than the Great Lakes to the gulf or Atlantic
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Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
It's entirely possible to get to the Mississippi from there - but not without canals or portaging.
ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Portage?wprov=sfti1
Kody_Z t1_j13pf7n wrote
Reply to comment by stellvia2016 in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
Well, 1962 was 60 years ago.
bcsimms04 t1_j13pegi wrote
Reply to When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
Back in the late 1800s you could take a steamboat all the way up the Colorado River and the Gila River and the Salt River to Phoenix in Arizona
Lamb_or_Beast t1_j13oymb wrote
Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
You seem confused though, lake nipigon is not further from where it drains (out the st Lawrence into North Atlantic); that lake does not drain out the gulf so saying it’s further from the gulf is like comparing apples to bananas. Also, from that point you cannot navigate through natural waterways out to the ocean anyway, you need to use canals to get past Niagara Falls (and possible a few other points? Unsure about that). So no matter what it is not as far…not even close actually.
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Reply to comment by Rum____Ham in How were early Victorian Steam Locomotive Drivers trained and Recruited? by DearGiraffe6168
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Reply to comment by mysilvermachine in How were early Victorian Steam Locomotive Drivers trained and Recruited? by DearGiraffe6168
>the elite of the working class, in your mid 20s.
What sort of life could this afford?
The_Feeding_End t1_j13n4kh wrote
Reply to comment by Obiwan_Salami in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
How far is it from the Atlantic? It's roughly 600km as the crow flies. That's not apples to apples.
dittybopper_05H t1_j13mwib wrote
Reply to comment by aught4naught in Why didn't the US adopt the STG-44 after WW2? by TurboTortois3
Ironically, though, the StG-44 is about 1 or 2 lbs heavier than an M-1 Garand. It doesn't *LOOK* like it, you'd think the Garand is heavier just looking at it, but it's not.
The other thing to consider is that the StG-44 is, essentially, a disposable gun. It's made largely of stampings, and they will wear out much quicker than a Garand. You can put tens of thousands of rounds through an M-1 with no difficulty, but a Sturmgewehr will wear out long before that. Plus, it's more prone to being damaged than an M-1.
But I think perhaps the biggest reason why is because the M-1 was a battle-proven platform which the US literally had millions of them in stock. Completely switching over from that to a new gun with new ammo (.30'06 Kurz?) would have been seen as an unnecessary waste of money.
drunkenknight9 t1_j13mtnj wrote
Reply to comment by icmonkey123 in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
Yes. There seems to be a lot of confusion here about what this means so I'll try to clarify. This is the furthest boat trip you can take along natural waterways from the ocean to a point inland without crossing land or using a canal. Taking a boat all the way from the Gulf of Mexico, up the Mississippi, up the Missouri, and into Montana is a very far boat ride. You cannot do this further anywhere else on Earth without using a canal or taking your boat over land. I honestly didn't think this was such a confusing concept but apparently people think it is.
Obiwan_Salami t1_j13mltm wrote
Reply to comment by blubblu in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
if indians could do it in canoes then so could pelt traders.
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Reply to comment by Zr0w3n00 in When this bridge in Fort Benton, Montana, USA was built 1888 it was required to have a swing span to allow steamboats to navigate. It was considered the furthest navigable point on Earth, more than 2,700 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. by triviafrenzy
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