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Laughedindeathsface t1_j124q0h wrote

I'm just throwing this out there. We also realized pretty quick that semi-auto is better for accuracy minus a few automatic weapons per squad for suppression.

US military has always preferred semi-automatic for it main weapon systems. Promotes accuracy, ammo conservation, less time reloading because mag fed full auto is 2 secs, 3 tops.

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MeatballDom t1_j124bac wrote

Yes, they thought them to be real events, and were passed to them in smaller Latin forms which were well known, but still mentioned other gods.

There's a couple of ways of looking at the gods themselves though, including just placing the Christian God into the story instead. The Greeks simply encountered him, but could only use their own mythologies to explain this, so these stories became muddied. Or at least that's the sort of thinking you might encounter.

Or that they simply added in the gods because they believed them to be helping them, just as a soldier in the Middle Ages might pray to god before battle as well and find him "there" even if never literally seeing or speaking to him.

It would be a few more hundred years before people started to be a bit more skeptical of the events of the Trojan War as passed down by bards and later written down in the form we know it as (well, the two main surviving accounts of many that are now lost). But there were still people who considered them authentic accounts of a war well into the modern age, with Schliemann having been made many efforts to "prove" these stories true, to the point of fabrication or mishandling of archeological finds to try and fit the narrative into it. Today we are fairly certain that Troy existed, and we're fairly certain the site as identified by Calvert (and later more famously, by Schliemann) is indeed the true Troy, and we know that it went through many wars, including one that would match up chronologically to around when we could place such a Trojan War, but we don't believe that the details laid out in the Iliad are historical (though whoever Homer was/were he/she/they were clearly inspired by elements, including some similarly named individuals that didn't have the exact roles detailed in the book but were popular in the region that Troy was in. So there are elements there.

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sciguy52 t1_j11yvcd wrote

I have looked up some websites that describe this operation hour by hour. The amount of men and material they landed there in 24 hours was just mind blowing. 156,000 men and all the weapons, ammunition, armor, food and fuel moved over the channel in just 24 hours. The numbers are so huge it is hard to comprehend. When they say logistics wins the wars, you see this and realize how true that is.

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somerandomdiyguy t1_j11uz9b wrote

My 6 year old really likes Bedtime History. We're still in the first year of episodes. So far it doesn't have the greatest production value and he puts some common misconceptions in here and there but it sounds like the guy is trying and genuinely interested. He does a pretty good job at the ELI5 thing which to me is the most important part.

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GOLDIEM_J t1_j11tqwd wrote

I am fully aware that medieval Christians would've considered people from classical antiquity, such as Xerxes or Augustus, to have been historical as we do today. Are you saying that they would've thought of Iliad characters the same way? Did they consider the Trojan war to be a historical event only with theological/supernatural embellishments? Would they not have thought of it as a fringe religious text?

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scottstots6 t1_j11s20c wrote

I don’t know what you are trying to say about post war fascism, pretty clear it never got reestanlished in Europe. Also, the vitriol and ad hominems are unnecessary. I like how you glossed over the Luftwaffe being destroyed by the Western Allies and the other two Axis major powers that were defeated almost entirely by the West. Also the lend lease to the Soviets and the fact that the Soviet started the war by helping Germany invade and conquer countries. If you want to talk about helping fascists look no further than the Soviets. Obviously, the Eastern Front absorbed the bulk of German troops but industrial output by theater is a different matter. And the Soviets couldn’t have done it without the support of the Western Allies.

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andonemoreagain t1_j11r1m3 wrote

If 30% of the army was occupied in the west they would be the 30% sprinting to surrender to the Americans so they could continue to re-establish the fascist order in Western Europe together after the war. It was not a decisive theater of war. No matter how many times you study the documentary saving private ryan.

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Bruhwhy23 t1_j11qm5g wrote

When they are older I recommend the pacific and band of brothers. If they enjoy gaming I suggest bf1 for some ww1 knowledge not all of it is accurate. A good amount can be back up via books along with history.com and brittanica.

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MeatballDom t1_j11q96l wrote

Do you mean regarding the gods being present, or just that it was written by pagans?

All history books from before the common era were written by pagans, but they didn't doubt the historicity of say the battles at Thermopylae or Actium. Early Christian historians, such as Clement of Alexandria, actually dealt with this "problem" early on by still recognising important historical gains made by pagans. So there was no outright dismissal of everything pagan, just some cultural elements -- but even that was a very slow process and mostly occurred later.

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DOOMFOOL t1_j11mn2o wrote

Honestly my dad taught me how to play civilization as a kid and I learned more about history from that game than I did in any class up till high school.

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GingerMau t1_j11lnvc wrote

I know yall are going to hate this suggestion, but my younger teens love Drunk History.

It's hilariously funny and serves as a jumping off point for them to do their own research. They have studied several specific people and events we only learned about by watching DH.

(DH is also teaching them that too much alcohol makes you demonstrably stupid, which is a good lesson to learn at a young age.)

Yes...we watched Horrible Histories, but it always rubbed them the wrong way...trying to be too funny and silly, and over too quickly. I would have to jump in and tell them what each sketch was actually referencing. (But then the show would have done three more sketches in that time.)

They all have simplified history youtubers they watch and some of them are very good. My 12yo just did a school project on Yugoslavia after watching some youtube video about it.

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