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Random-Historian t1_j1143ih wrote

I started getting into history when I was very young through commemerative coins, I have gotten other people interested in history by showing them some of the more interesting things in my collection, such as my WWI gas artillery shell and very well used WWII gas mask. You can't exactly force people to like history, but showing them stuff from it and helping them remember it can help someone realise how fun and interesting history can be.

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TheNumLocker OP t1_j1133ob wrote

Thank you for the thoughtful answer!

I am not all that worried about factual nitpicks, more about the narratives present in “mainstream” stories/games for kids. In a film about knights, I’ll likely oscillate between “swoosh swoosh, take that villain!” and a lecture on feudalism being a brute and exploitative system romanticized by Victorians and that movie right here. But it’s true there is more nuanced kid content out there (suggested here), so I think it’s possible to give then a more balanced overview.

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phillipgoodrich t1_j112qaz wrote

From a perspective of 150 years, it would appear that the overarching problem between McClellan and Lincoln was Lincoln's inability to articulate the strategy of the war as perceived by himself, and therefore McClellan's inability to approach the war as a federal official suppressing a traitorous revolt by upstart rebels. As a result, McClellan's dallying and failing to pursue Lee aggressively led to a tacit recognition of the validiity of the CSA military as a legitimate army. It was almost as if McClellan had de facto recognized the CSA as an entity. Which of course enraged Lincoln. And also explains why Lincoln was so deeply relieved when Grant finally took command along with Sherman, and advised Lincoln that they would approach this as an unconditional effort to suppress a revolution. Lincoln's statement that "This man fights!" was no casual comment; he needed a general who would chase the last active rebel to hell and back until every active rebel was hanged. McClellan was never of this mindset, even in the waning days of the war.

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raymondcy t1_j1109mw wrote

> The Normandy landings were an irrelevant sideshow. Only important in determining who would rule in europe after the war.

While the Soviets have often been unfairly undermined for their role in the ending of WW2, what you just said is a huge stretch and, frankly, fairly offensive to the other Allied nations that gave their lives in that effort.

Could the Soviets keep running over Europe without the western front? maybe, is the answer; certainly not in a reasonable time frame. As the history of the war showed, the farther armies got away from their supply lines the more vulnerable they were. Just as in Stalingrad, there is nothing to say that Germany couldn't have regrouped and held out in their own position somewhere to amass an army for a major counter attack. And let's not forget Germany was by far technologically superior to the Soviets.

Because the German army had to defend on two fronts there is no possible way they could concentrate their forces in one position and overwhelm either front; especially after the affect that the west air power had against the Luftwaffe.

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boysan98 t1_j10zca3 wrote

I played CIV 3 as a kid and it sets you up for one of the most important parts of history without really thinking about it. Geography. Why are river cities OP in CIV, its becuase they're OP in real life. What does technology look like, how are some of these things related. Youre kid wont say these things aloud but the game does a really good job at giving a framework to think about history from a wholistic point of view.

Its a game that also shows a bunch of different cultures that arent super common in the western narrative. They also tend to have some interesting bios that are neat to read.

I was about 7-8 when I started playing. Just really fun engaging games that dont force history on you but deffinitly give a softer approach to many different parts of history.

Also Giant Death Robots are cool.

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MaxApocalyptc t1_j10rfvp wrote

Yes, the atomic bombs were product of inteligentia. But the fact is that the us were late to do anything at the final conflict in Manchucko. Soviets liberated China and Korea, the us came late and proposed the division of the Korea. The fact is that the bombs were not necessary, the bombs were dropped in the beginning of August and the Japanese just surrendered later that month, even after the bombs they kept fighting the soviets. The bombs did nothing to end the war.

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