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Yrcrazypa t1_j0sjl5k wrote
Reply to comment by ragnarok62 in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Try to read Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in the original Middle English. That's nowhere near as far back as Old English and it's already really difficult for most speakers of English, if not outright impossible for another huge portion.
youdubdub t1_j0sj6fj wrote
Reply to comment by zorokash in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
It should be distinguished from the former language. There is no way the new speakers can discern prior inflection, verbal varieties, etc.
The old version of the language in dead in spite of an attempted revival.
atre324 t1_j0siy68 wrote
Reply to Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Just curious… For Sanskrit learners/speakers- does knowing any other language help you learn Sanskrit? Are there similar words/grammar with other languages?
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Reply to comment by zorokash in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
If no one is speaking them, they're dead, not dying.
TurkeyDinner547 t1_j0shfph wrote
Reply to comment by zorokash in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Where are these rules written or contained exactly? And why is it being called a machine?
Edit:
>Why would you think about stones and machines?
Because the Rosetta Stone was also used as a linguistic tool, and the article literally uses the word "machine".
>How bad are you at reading comprehension?
Pretty bad when the author doesn't articulate exactly what they're talking about. Pretty good when the details are explained, and considering that I graduated college with a BSIT and a minor in history, but thanks for asking.
Tony2Punch t1_j0sgovt wrote
Reply to comment by ragnarok62 in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
There are people that speak the Vedic Sanskrit, it is extremely useful in figuring out the Proto-Indo-European Language. That is the old Sanskrit.
Fun fact, a Sanskrit Scholar would have been able to talk to a Lithuanian peasant back in ye olde’ time because their languages were similar enough.
zorokash t1_j0sfjok wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
They are dying BECAUSE noone is speaking them... going extinct if it makes more sense to you?
zorokash t1_j0sff4k wrote
Reply to comment by FoolishConsistency17 in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Languages change due to act of speaking. Not related to it being native to anywhere or not.
English is not native to 99% of Indian population and some approx 20% can speak it. But if you removed those 20% and isolated them from other english speakers, the English they speak will still continue to change and adapt for newer needs and trends in language and pop culture.
This logic of a language is frozen if spoken only by second language speakers is entirely flawed. I know 6 languages, but if my 6th language got new trends among similar 6th language speakers of same language, I will still register that and it may or may not propagate back to 1st speakers of that language depending on how popular it gets.
sadness_elemental t1_j0sfbri wrote
Reply to comment by BurntRussianBBQ in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
They assumed it meant earlier rules had precedence over later rules, it's simple once you realise but they probably didn't even realise they were applying the rule wrong
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zorokash t1_j0se5fm wrote
Reply to comment by youdubdub in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
People are having conversations in it, writing literature, has a news telecast in Sanskrit, there are drama and theatre , .... what else needs to happen for it to be considered "speaking" it?
zorokash t1_j0sdvrl wrote
Reply to comment by Shibbledibbler in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
There are a few everyday speakers of Sanskrit, who use it sort of a vernacular in public speaking.
RuralMNGuy t1_j0sdvdo wrote
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Otto Skorzeny?
zorokash t1_j0sdbc1 wrote
Reply to comment by TurkeyDinner547 in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Dude, the article clearly says this is about language and grammar. Why would you think about stones and machines? This is pseudo algorithm techniques.
It didn't make too many errors, the rule book was never correctly applied, and hence no accurate and conclusive results. That's the argument made here. And once the correct application is deciphered the errors are reduced to nearly zero. And thata why it is an achievement.
How bad are you at reading comprehension?
[deleted] t1_j0sdb3x wrote
Reply to comment by zorokash in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
How are they dying if noone speaks them?
youdubdub t1_j0scmnx wrote
Reply to comment by PfizerGuyzer in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
That was my point. Thanks for the downvote, but we happen to be vigorously agreeing, lol.
PfizerGuyzer t1_j0scmnr wrote
Reply to comment by BurntRussianBBQ in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
The last hundred years in particular has been spent assuming much more complicated solutions and delving into them..
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PfizerGuyzer t1_j0scjhl wrote
Reply to comment by youdubdub in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Not relevant in this case. Dead means no native speakers.
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BurntRussianBBQ t1_j0sbc17 wrote
Reply to comment by PfizerGuyzer in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
I am I correct in my understanding it was as simple as, when there is a choice between the right and left side of a word, always choose or "modify" right?
This seems incredibly simple. Why did not one run across this before?
FoolishConsistency17 t1_j0sas0k wrote
Reply to comment by zorokash in Ancient Grammatical Puzzle That Has Baffled Scientists for 2,500 Years Solved by Cambridge University Student by Superb_Boss289
Linguists call a language dead when there are no native speakers. People may speak it, but they learn it as a second language, often from texts, or from people who learned from texts. It ceases to change or adapt as a living language does.
jkershaw t1_j0sktme wrote
Reply to comment by PhiloCroc in Greek Hinduism - any surviving legacy? by Isabella1293
Great, carefully reply. This point
"Our comparative models making us think two very different things are similar (do not underestimate this)."
Is really insightful, a lot of very poor history is based on people picking up seeming similarities and turning them into theories - notably that awful Netflix shows.
Then the next issues is assuming that things that were genuinely shared meant the same thing even in the new context - when the act of translation changed the meaning