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Skeptical-_- t1_j3dspj6 wrote

"Taking into account the awful performance of the Western Allies against the Nazis on the western front it is entirely justified to consider the Soviet Army superior in the immediate post-war period to any other army in the world.Conflating the Soviet Army in 1945 with the Russians in 2022 is so stupid that I will, sadly, have to assume that you are terminally American." - PrusPrusic reply which seems gone now... I replied but also don't see that so here it is

wow you really don't know some basic ww2 stats if that's your argument. The Soviets killed a lot of Germans but for everyone killed they lost a (2-4 maybe more) of their own. They were also on the defensive taking the majority of these losses….Yes soviets/russia killed a lot of germans no is saying they did not but it was anything but performant and left them drained with major negative effects on the population still seen to this day. To claim they were somehow the best/strongest in the world right after taking such losses is crazy and ignores basic realities inside and outside of the USSR.

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katamuro t1_j3dqc3q wrote

it's actually older. Read about the life of Ivan The Terrible and then the period that followed. The "west" be in germans, polish-lithuanians, swedish or anyone else have been in conflict with russia in one form or another since the 16th century.

Reading the difference in how certain events are described between western historians and others is clear.

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Jamf t1_j3dnao7 wrote

In his History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon writes ‘Dalmatia, to which the name of Illyricum more properly belonged, was a long, but narrow tract, between the Save and the Adriatic.’

“The Save” is decidedly difficult to Google. Can anyone tell me what he means? Thanks!

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katamuro t1_j3dn76n wrote

this is really something a lot of people don't know, don't bother to know and try actively to distance themselves from knowing that Bandera was an actual real nazi who murdered people before WW2 based on his nazi views and then in the war the organisation that he was a leader of helped and participated german nazis kill jews in both the western ukraine and poland. So any glorification of this guy by ukrainains clearly say that they are nazis.

What would we call someone who glorified Hitler or Gimmler or that nazi propaganda guy? A nazi.

And people really underestimate the level of sheer horror that was the revolution, civil war and then ww2. The people who lived through it had fought for their lives for years from almost every side. They fought against germans, the white army, the international helpers of the white army, japanese.

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