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maaseru t1_j2n63kl wrote
Reply to comment by Vegan_Harvest in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Wasn't there a Farrelly brothers movie that actually had like a band playing throughout the movie?
nick_rhoads01 t1_j2n5v11 wrote
Reply to comment by DreadPirateGriswold in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
What’s makes the recording quality worse? Wouldn’t it be nearly the same?
fuckingportuguese t1_j2n5rcf wrote
Reply to comment by Vegan_Harvest in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
This is a like a paradox to AI art.
monkeybeast55 t1_j2n4nxj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
To kind of echo what @tenemu said, making something economically viable (i.e. "pay the rent") is not (necessarily) to "fill their own pockets". Broadway shows are already pretty expensive, and I doubt that most of those that are involved are living in mansions as it is.
DreadPirateGriswold t1_j2n3jwt wrote
Reply to comment by FerricDonkey in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
That's what I said. We're saying the same thing.
suffaluffapussycat t1_j2n33b8 wrote
Reply to comment by EXPLODODOG in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Yeah, it’s funny how synthesizers had a bad rap in the ‘70s.
My dad took me to see a Moog demonstration at a local music store in about ‘78. My dad loved all kinds of gee-whiz futurology stuff. He wasn’t a musician but I was.
The guy from Moog had a whole spiel about how people should keep an open mind because Moogs didn’t have a “sound” and that they could sound like anything: a violin or a flute (then he would demonstrate these sounds). Which is hilarious because Moogs never sold in great numbers because of their accuracy at mimicking other instruments; they’re popular specifically for the Moog sound.
I recall reading a story about very early rhythm machines that were made to accompany live musicians and I think there was talk of placing a tariff on such items with the proceeds going to support union musicians.
Caldwing t1_j2n31o9 wrote
Reply to In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Like in every other field technology slowly makes it possible for fewer and fewer people to do more and more. This makes more and more people superfluous. The percentage of the human race that is now truly needed to grow all the food. build everything, maintain everything, and provide all entertainment is actually pretty small. I am only estimating but it's maybe like 1 in 4. The only reason most people work is because our economic model forces a huge amount of needless labour by making everything a competition.
wandering-monster t1_j2n2i8g wrote
Reply to comment by Vegan_Harvest in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
If you look around your area, there's probably an opportunity!
Especially look for old silent films. I saw Metropolis with a live piano accompaniment, and it really is different in some ineffable way.
Like I'd seen it before and didn't find it all that engaging. But in that show it felt more exciting somehow, and held my attention the entire time.
FerricDonkey t1_j2n1icy wrote
Reply to comment by DreadPirateGriswold in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Right now isn't the only time people have wanted to cut costs.
I_play_trombone_AMA t1_j2n0iy9 wrote
Reply to comment by yvrelna in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
> If the movie heavily relies on rock music, then they can just have a rock band play the live music instead of an orchestra.
Yes, they could do that, but then an orchestra wouldn’t put it on their own concert schedule and it wouldn’t be an orchestra event, which is fine. It would just change the type of event it is.
> Or maybe it could be some members of the orchestra may also be rock players, if both types of music are in the movie.
This is pretty rare in the orchestra world. Most members of professional orchestras have specialized degrees in orchestral performance, and have spent tens of thousands of hours practicing their instrument. The sheer amount of time required mostly precludes people from playing more than one instrument at a professional level (unless they’re very similar, like flute and piccolo, or clarinet and bass clarinet). There may be someone in the orchestra who plays guitar for fun, but the chances of that person actually being good enough at guitar to perform a movie score for paying audience members is vanishingly small. Everyone you see on stage at an orchestra concert has dedicated their life and career to mastering one instrument and learning as much as they possibly can about it.
smileymn t1_j2n00qx wrote
Reply to In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Well they were right, it was the Great Depression and due to radio, “talkies,” and other changes in technology a lot of musicians lost their performing jobs.
smileymn t1_j2mzvqa wrote
Reply to comment by trucorsair in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
There was the AFM recording ban in the early 1940s, basically no music was recorded for over a year.
trucorsair t1_j2mzaoa wrote
Reply to In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Would have been nice if the article had gone into any detail as to when the AFM threw in the towel…
Clanstantine t1_j2mz03z wrote
Reply to comment by bayesian13 in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
My local orchestra did fellowship of the ring last summer and next summer they're doing two towers
DreadPirateGriswold t1_j2myvil wrote
Reply to comment by tenemu in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
Reducing live music on Broadway shows started happening a long time ago, like a decade or more. It's not a recent cost cutting measure.
Edit for clariry: Thought I was pretty clear on this. The cost cutting by reducing live musicians on Broadway, trying to replace them with recorded music has been going on for decades. This is not new. Musicians are always fighting this.
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Reply to comment by [deleted] in In 1930s, Music Defense League launched a campaign against recorded sound in movie and live theaters, claiming that numerous musicians would lose their jobs if "canned music" was preferred over live recordings. by Profanion
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