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2Mike2022 t1_j19vcfs wrote
Reply to comment by Horror_in_Vacuum in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
Of course they wouldn't cut logs or post with it but saplings to weave in between the post that's likely.
pf30146788e t1_j19usvi wrote
Reply to comment by Lord0fHats in Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
Correct much of this isn’t really new to people who have even been in these areas for a while. The locals will even tell you there are ruins here or there, and that nobody is doing anything with them. But if he wants to get the funding for professional archaeology, he needs to bring it to the masses as a “discovery,” but in reality none of this is new.
Grossadmiral t1_j19u81v wrote
Reply to comment by 2Mike2022 in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
Swords lose their edge really easily. Using it to cut a tree is a good way to destroy the blade.
pf30146788e t1_j19tyf3 wrote
Reply to Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
I used to live down that way but on the Mexico side of the border. They are constantly finding new stuff. Some of it is even known but nobody has bothered to go about digging carefully. The Maya empire was vast and powerful.
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averytolar t1_j19rsi6 wrote
Reply to comment by AshFraxinusEps in Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
I’m going to go with Peten being the cradle of maya civilization..Tikal is just a fingernail scratch of what’s out there.
J_G_E t1_j19rrz2 wrote
Reply to comment by 2Mike2022 in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
>The Romans always fortified the camps they made and a short sword could be used to aid in digging cutting post even firewood if needed.
I know this may be a shock, but the romans has invented the axe, and the shovel.
what you're saying is roughly on par with saying that an F1 racecar can also be used for towing a caravan,
Horror_in_Vacuum OP t1_j19qxat wrote
Reply to comment by 2Mike2022 in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
I know, but swords are rather fragile and demand a lot of maintenance. Using it to chop wood would be a terrible idea. And I know metal was reused, but in that time, it was much more valuable than it is today.
2Mike2022 t1_j19qm90 wrote
I also am not a historian I work construction. The Romans always fortified the camps they made and a short sword could be used to aid in digging cutting post even firewood if needed. So I see it more as a multi purpose tool. Also metal was not just left after a battle it would have been collected and reused.
RagingLeonard t1_j19pnl0 wrote
Reply to comment by Thedmfw in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
Correct, but my comment was in relation to OP's question regarding the costs of Roman swords. Training and food/healthcare/shelter are huge expenses for a military for sure.
Thedmfw t1_j19og7t wrote
Reply to comment by RagingLeonard in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
That's just equipment. The cost to train a soldier to the point that they get issued that equipment is in the 40ks by now.
Horror_in_Vacuum OP t1_j19n7dc wrote
Reply to comment by its_raining_scotch in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
Oh yeah. You can also correlate the concentration of lead in the atmosphere to the rise of the greek and roman empires because the melting of iron ore releases trace amounts of lead to the atmosphere. It's really cool. Thanks for the answer.
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RagingLeonard t1_j19myae wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
I got it from a 2009 article.
https://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/cost-equipping-soldier/
I think the military doesn't pay retail for gear/ammo, but prices have increased for sure.
its_raining_scotch t1_j19muos wrote
There’s a lot of articles about ancient Roman pollution due to large scale resource extraction and industrial output. Ice cores from glaciers are able to show the signature of the Romans due to how much wood they burned in order to run their empire’s production of goods.
There’s a story told by a Roman writer, I can’t remember who, about what it was like seeing a town in Spain that was set up to produce iron goods on a mass scale. They said you could see a haze in the distance as you approached and that there weren’t any trees left. When you got closer it became a sort of hell scape with everything covered in soot or ash and the sky was a dark orange. This was all from how many blacksmiths were working their fires and producing iron goods, so you can imagine the scale.
The Romans took their production to this level and had many towns like that one, so that’s how they were able to outfit their armies with swords and everything else.
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Reply to comment by RagingLeonard in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
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AshFraxinusEps t1_j19llj2 wrote
Reply to comment by Lord0fHats in Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
>Hansen has been arguing the need for increased archeology in this region for nearly 20 years
Let's be honest we should do that for more of the world in general. But yep, the South American civilisations haven't nearly been chronicled enough
McGillis_is_a_Char t1_j19kim7 wrote
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Could anyone recommend a book about Renaissance Eastern Mediterranean diplomacy and spycraft? I have recently read Agents of Empire by Noel Malcolm(an excellent book especially if you are interested in the role of Venetian subjects in the Balkans in Eastern Mediterranean politics), and would like to know more.
Kdzoom35 t1_j19jn6u wrote
Reply to Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
I thought it's been figured out that Mesoamerica was one of if not the most densely populated areas in the world pre Columbus/Cortez.
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Welshhoppo t1_j19i7t9 wrote
Reply to comment by AuntieDawnsKitchen in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
The Romans? At least two javelins with a long metal tip. But when you compare it to the amount of armour that your Roman legionnaire wore. It's not a lot.
Plus you could pick them up after the battle and get someone to reforge them back into shape.
AuntieDawnsKitchen t1_j19hxe1 wrote
Reply to comment by Welshhoppo in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
And weren’t a lot of them equipped with spears, which take much less metal?
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Reply to Discovery of 1,000 previously unknown Maya settlements challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation in northern Guatemala (ca. 1000 B.C.–A.D. 150) by marketrent
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