It is a very subjective opinion that the 600/650 is better. I think both the 660S and S2 are better sounding headphones for ME and that’s the important part. I won’t use headphones that are worse by my taste just because they’re cheaper. For me both the 660S and S2 worth every penny. If you or anybody thinks differently that’s okay but telling people that these are a rip off is very misleading at the least.

No, wired is generally the preferred connection and a lot of the dongles are very cheap and offer great quality. What phone do you use?

As meh as it is at least the venus could be a nice decoration on your desk.

I bought a ibasso dx120 years ago. Lasts about... 13 hours? 16? It lasts a super long time but is super laggy for most users today.

Honestly when it comes to daps I would stick with used or older models for the most part.

Hiby r2 touts a crazy long battery and most reviewers have confirmed this bit you're looking at 430 usd to get it so a bit pricey for me personally.

I guess I haven't honestly thought of that. The cable will still be a pain practically speaking. Will have to decide if that's worth "the hassle".. Will there be a loss of sound quality, do you know? If it's "too much" i think it'd be a shame to use such headphones, maybe.

Since Jesus is always in your heart, that's already one attendee you know.

Both companies offer sporty as well as luxury vehicles though.

It's a rip off, because the HD 600/650 perform better at half the price.

If they were the same exact headphone at a higher price that would be bad enough. As it stands, it's a WORSE headphone at a higher price.

In a vacuum the S2 is fine, I guess. But in the real world it's pricing is really uncompetitive.

Doesn't mean you can't like it. All it means is that it is very poor value.

Edit: Lmao, as soon as someone does not partake in the circlejerk, the downvotes come in. Ya'll would be right at home in the CCP, they too cannot take criticism ;)

Thx😉

Love your spelling of much.

I was wanting headphones for listening to music and editing but also be good for gaming I really hate all the headphones listed for gaming.

I knew it! To mutch facts for flesh and blood.

What tips does the Lan come with? I got the steallaris (3 of them like them so much.) And love the tips that come with them.

I haven't been able to find any info on what tips the lan comes with.

Hi mam thanks for the reply. Hm maybe I wasn't that clear. Call it sleep deprived with 2 kids I don't know but what i meant to say was. I can not use headphones with a cable. It has to be wireless. It is way to impractical since I can't sit down stationary style during the day and night. So a more pronounced question wouæe be, is there some nifty workaround where I can keep the headphones so they somehow can receive sound from the headphone, or is that just total bollocks. Hope that clarifies some stuff. If not let me know.

Again, I’ve totally fixed that with EQ, planars take it quite well.

I wouldn’t say it lacks substance, just needs more oomph from the bass range.

I’ll also add, the headphones benefited a lot from a good DAC and Amplifier

By the Merc vs BMW comaprison I was going for the elegancy vs sportiness aspect, otherwise you’re right.

Rip off? If you can afford the product and not unhappy after buying it why would it be a rip off? Sure it’s expensive but you don’t get the same sound from any other 600 series headphones. If you actually like a 6XX or 600 sound signature more than the 660S2, good for you because you don’t have to spend 2x or 3x the money and you’ll be happy. My point was that judging the sound quality by the price of the S2 the way some reviews did is not okay. It would be if they were the same exact headphones just more expensive but that’s not the case.

BINGO. The Edition XS has nice clarity, detail and soundstage. But the note weight is so thin compared to listening to an Audeze LCD-2C or LCD-X 2021 or any Dan Clark Audio planar under $1,000.

> i only use wireless connection to my smartphone

Couldn't you just not do that and plug them in instead using a dongle?

Try both for a couple of weeks to see if you end up favoring one over the other.

As I said, I never used the box so I don’t care about that. If you are used to putting them in the box I can see the disappointment. Otherwise it’s irrelevant IMO.

No one argued that the S2 aint better tuned than the S1, I think.

People argue instead that the S2 is a rip off and really bad, compared to the original 600/650.

Also the BMW and merc comparison makes no sense. These are companies that make a wide range of products, different from each other and everything in their own lineup.

An A160 carries the three point star, just like an S class does. Yet you would not compare them.

I would still want the box, it’s crazy to think that the 6XX comes in a box but this being 3x as expensive doesn’t get the box.

The background is that when I heard it, I happened to own an SR-007 system at the time and had some misgivings about it: obviously tonality is never going to be a Stax strength, but the ethereal, light presentation really limited their use for me. They were great for relaxing and not actively focusing on music, such as during the work day, but when I’m critically listening, I want something with more substance. It’s been a while since I’ve heard the Jr (last time I heard it was back in 2018 I think?) but what I do recall was that it had more upper midrange presence, more low midrange body, and less harsh mid-treble. I’m not sure which of the two would win out in resolution, but my takeaway from it was that it was a nice take on a “weightier” sounding 007 SZ2.

The Susvara, from memory, leaned brighter and leaner. I do agree it sucked the life out of a lot of my music but most Susvara fans I know seem to be detail-chasers rather than tone-purists.

Nope. Shanling and moondrop blessing 2

So a little background story. I started the hobby at the end of last year with a Fiio K5 pro and the regular Sennheiser HD 660S after selling my AirPods Max which were my first really good quality headphones and started getting me into audio. I listen to music from my iPad on apple music and I was really happy with my 660S.

When I first saw the 660S2 leaks I was happy and sad at the same time because I didn’t plan to upgrade anytime soon but the frequency response comparison shared by sennheiser got me excited for the enhanced bass on the S2.

I picked the 660S on the first place because of the charactersitics of it’s sound signature, it is similar to the AirPods Max which staterted everything so it’s safe to say that I really liked the 660S. First actual reviews came in on the S2 and some said it’s a clear upgrade from the 660S others said it’s a sidegrade and too expensive so let me adress these confusing reviews.

Yes, it is expensive and in my opinion you should wait for a discount if you want to buy them. But, here comes the BUT part that is in my opinion lives too much in the shadow of the pricing. These headphones are amazing. There is no way anyone who tries them says that these sound bad because they’re in a way the most unique sounding headphones in this category.

A few words about the presentation. I don’t miss the big box the 660S comes in, the sack feels premium enough and will never use it ever just like the big box. The design is very much like the sound of these which I’ll get into it in a second, the S2 looks sexier and more different than the 660S and I really like them.

Compared to the 660S what are the most noticable changes regarding sound quality?

I don’t agree with the headphone show guy nor with Joshua Valour. The base response is very much a noticable and significant upgrade from the 660S. It just sounds better simple as that. The easiest way to say this is that I listened to Bad guy by Billie Eilish and the S2 made me enjoy the bass throughout the song while the 660S was definitely lacking in my opinion in this region. The treble and high frequencies however are the changes that can cause the most controversy and I agree in this part with the reviews. It is very different from the 660S, every note is sharper and can feel more unpleasent for people who are really sensitive in this area of sound. The mids have been put in the background by the more bass heavy tuning and the changes at the other side of the curve. It doesn’t mean that the mids are bad, because they’re still beautiful you just have to focus on this area by listening than before. The soundstage is also bigger, not by a crazy amount but enough to notice it immediately.

It is like Mercedes (660S) vs BMW (S2) or the same guy in a suit (660S) vs casual every day clothes (S2). I think the S2 is a more consumer oriented product with this tuning, meaning that more genres of music will sound amazing with these than with the 660S. To say it the most simple way I can it is like Beats or Sony took the 660S and made fine tuning and released the S2. It is a more V shaped 660S without being actually V shaped if that makes sense.

I listen to them while writing these words and these are really playful, less elegant but still beautifully detailed headphones. Everyone who buys these without owning any other expensive headphones will be very very happy how these sound and I do recommend them if you’re willing to spend the money.

If you guys have any questions I’m happy to answear them!

Well to not just say "3d audio stucks" blah blah, you can use any headphone/headset. If you want wide 3d-ish audio try using open backs. I think its better than 3d audio because not every game is made with 3d audio in mind, even ps5 games.