According to Amazon it should work just fine. A seperate soundcard should be more than enough.

Dude, if you like down in bed the force of the mattress holidng your head up is more than a headphone clamp force. Does it dent your head? No.

Lay off the skunk for a week or 2 bro.

> Please save money and just stick to Spotify

Spotify Premium is more expensive than Tidal HiFi at least where I live (€5.99/month vs. €4.99/month), so not much of a reason to stick with it.

Also FYI, Tidal pays more of that money out to artists/rightsholders.

Yeah, save your money and just go for Spotify, don’t forget to activate the « very high » sound quality option in your Spotify settings on the computer app.

Me who just found out people listen through rocks, and I was sitting in this sub because of headphones recommendations.

Only if it's a Audeze, coz they weigh so much they can crush your tiny skull...

Hahaha what the fuck now

A headphone CANNOT dent your skull.

It's just your hair that flattens and looks like dog water.

Which is why I shaved it all of at the age 20 and it had nothing to do with me going bald anyway, I swear.

I have a separate sound card and it seems to be okay.

Only issue is that the X is designed for Xbox so I'm not sure if it's 100% compatible with PC

Solid choice! They get even better once broken in to the point the clamping force stops trying to crush your skull :P

I wouldn't say I'm obsessed over skull shape, I would just say that I am concerned for my health and it is quite scary to think about this.

I have personally never heard about this issue. I've been using headphones since quite a young age and have not noticed anything of the sort. Anyhow, I don't think it's ever a good idea to spend too much time obsessing over skull shape-- that's what phrenology is, and they got nowhere.

Tidal Masters with MQA is not lossless but that's doesn't even matter (matters if you see what they're charging for lossy file compression codec disguising itself as lossless)

In a double blind test, one can't tell the difference audiobly between Spotify's 320kbps OGG Vorbis and Tidal's lossy pretending as lossless MQA.

Please save money and just stick to Spotify... If you truly want a lossless playing streaming app these four are available (Apple Music HiFi, Qobuz, AmazonHiFi, Deezer)

u/Not-Icarus

The best aftermarket pads are the Dekoni Elite Velour but they will change the sound of the headphone. Pads play a very big role in the tuning of a headphone.

As far as the headband goes, some people like to put the Dekoni nuggets and they say it improves comfort.

As far as the clamp force goes, the headband is made out of metal and you can bend it to your liking to reduce the clamp. I suggest you try this first before you start investing in pads.

Closed Sundara had bad frequency response measurements, I hope this has good one. It doesn't have to follow Harman directly but at least it should be smooth without dips and peaks.

I suppose those who have achieved the end game are no longer interested in such discussions.

If it really is the same base model and your motherboard has good enough audio processing then it should be fine

It's also my first and it will sound better with eq

[General]

Configuration Icon=9

PreAmp=-5.3

[Speakers]

SpeakerId0=0

SpeakerTargets0=all

SpeakerName0=All

SpeakerId1=1

SpeakerTargets1=L

SpeakerName1=Left

SpeakerId2=2

SpeakerTargets2=R

SpeakerName2=Right

SpeakerId3=3

SpeakerTargets3=C

SpeakerName3=Center

SpeakerId4=4

SpeakerTargets4=SUB

SpeakerName4=Subwoofer

SpeakerId5=5

SpeakerTargets5=RL

SpeakerName5=Left rear

SpeakerId6=6

SpeakerTargets6=RR

SpeakerName6=Right rear

SpeakerId7=7

SpeakerTargets7=SL

SpeakerName7=Left side

SpeakerId8=8

SpeakerTargets8=SR

SpeakerName8=Right side

[Frequencies]

Frequency1=20

Frequency2=41

Frequency3=55

Frequency4=73

Frequency5=131

Frequency6=332

Frequency7=887

Frequency8=967

Frequency9=1017

Frequency10=1139

Frequency11=1264

Frequency12=1998

Frequency13=2320

Frequency14=2937

Frequency15=3601

Frequency16=4034

Frequency17=4357

Frequency18=4880

Frequency19=5797

Frequency20=6824

Frequency21=7404

Frequency22=7925

Frequency23=8560

Frequency24=10355

Frequency25=12246

Frequency26=12872

Frequency27=14416

Frequency28=15713

Frequency29=18414

Frequency30=19000

Frequency31=20000

[Gains]

Gain1=4.7

Gain2=3.2

Gain3=2.7

Gain4=2.2

Gain5=-0.2

Gain6=0.7

Gain9=-0.5

Gain10=-1.9

Gain11=-1.2

Gain14=0.6

Gain15=1.7

Gain16=2.5

Gain17=1

Gain18=-1.9

Gain19=3

Gain20=3.6

Gain21=0.2

Gain22=-4.4

Gain23=5.4

Gain24=-3.6

Gain25=2.7

Gain26=0.5

Gain27=2.3

Gain29=-3.9

Gain31=2.7

[Qualities]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.54

Quality3=5.36

Quality4=2.32

Quality5=0.7

Quality6=1.31

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=7.55

Quality9=2.95

Quality10=1.55

Quality11=3.11

Quality12=1.23

Quality13=1.85

Quality14=3.31

Quality15=4.11

Quality16=6.28

Quality17=8.49

Quality18=4.18

Quality19=4.24

Quality20=3.29

Quality21=2

Quality22=5.71

Quality23=4.96

Quality24=3.34

Quality25=8.7

Quality26=4.73

Quality27=7.76

Quality28=2.07

Quality29=3.22

Quality30=1.41

Quality31=1.41

[Frequencies1]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities1]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies2]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities2]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies3]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities3]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies4]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities4]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies5]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities5]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies6]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities6]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies7]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities7]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

[Frequencies8]

Frequency1=10

Frequency2=21

Frequency3=42

Frequency4=83

Frequency5=166

Frequency6=333

Frequency7=577

Frequency8=1000

Frequency9=2000

Frequency10=4000

Frequency11=8000

Frequency12=16000

Frequency13=20000

[Qualities8]

Quality1=1.41

Quality2=1.41

Quality3=1.41

Quality4=1.41

Quality5=1.41

Quality6=1.41

Quality7=1.64

Quality8=1.41

Quality9=1.41

Quality10=1.41

Quality11=1.41

Quality12=1.41

Quality13=2.99

Seems legit

> I personally would save up for one of the cheaper Sennheiser open backs, slap a modmic on that and call it a day.

Many people recommend this but I honestly for me personally the sound quality of the Cloud I are enough for what I do, and that extra comfort of just having the microphone and everything all in one ready to go is unbeatable comparing to what you mentioned.

I will not be using the fake surround, I don't really like that stuff.

The whole thing is if the CloudX, which costs just 50€, is worth it. It seems to be the same base model, AFAIK, with a few different add-ons (no USB, no surround, etc)

I totally agree on the sound stage whore. It’s addicting

When I had both Spotify and Tidal, my Chromecast/Bluetooth streamers would auto-resume and sometimes I forgot which service it was playing from.

I always thought Spotify sounded worse, but it may be that Spotify plays at a lower volume.

Remember, this Headphone is a keeper for future reference when the time for an end game comes

Yea, I gave my 58x to my little brother after I heard the 660s

From personal experience, I’d advise against the Dekoni Hybrid Elite, since they pretty much ruined the soundstage for me. Maybe your experience with other pads will be better.