Na msayin

Are you sure? Cause most reviews say 560s is better than those

660s are Significantly better to me. If you wanna go even further then something like aeon flow open and then lcd-x. 560s are really amazing for the price but 660s are way better.

You need to try different eartips. Eartips play a big role I comfort.

Stok tips

Have to listen to all then decide

Spinfit W1

How much do I need to spend to get something significantly better than the 560s?

The iems you bought probably doesn't fit you. Try something smaller? The moondrop chu is small. People say the moondrop aria is also comfy. There's a cheap "clone" of the aria called the truthear hola. The hola is tuned similarly to the tangzu wan er i think. So you could try that.

It’s really good buuuut you can get better.

Thug

Grado rs2e.

Man the Deep Mounts are the best sounding tips IMO but unfortunately they get uncomfortable after a few minutes for me

I have the apple earpods, Sennheiser CX 300, HD 569 and HD 560s. My HD 560s is really my fav headphone and I don’t think I will get any substantial difference even if I buy headphones that are twice its price. Its that good

Raptgo Adaptive Eartips and Fiio HS18

I have favorites per style, choose them depending on how I'm feeling:

Open Back - ATH-ADX5000

Closed Back - ATH-AWKT

IEM - JVC HA-FW10000

>Generally, an amp is more important than a dac, but in your case, an
external dac might help if the static/noise you're hearing really is
from electronic interference.

Yup it does seem as though my Mac can be improved with a better amp while my desktop experience might be better improved with both a better AMP and DAC

>A Schiit Magni/Modi or JDS Labs Atom Dac/Amp stack could easily be all
you ever need, plenty of power and very accurate measurement-wise.

I see I see, I'd initially think that a combined AMP/DAC would be worse as generally thats how it goes for most electronics, though it seems to suffice for your 650S (which I assume is generally similiar to the rest of the 600 series)

That being said, thank you for giving me assurance that a standalone one would definitely improve my desktop experience, would you say r/AVexchange is a good place to look for used ones to pick up ?

I see, that does explain why my 660S work great with the Mac out of the box

>But assuming the source of your static is caused by your motherboard's
headphone jack running out of steam at high volumes, then yes, it should
be rectified by adding an external amp alone.

Noted! In that case I'll start looking into some decent AMPs with those and other recommendations and seeing how it improves it before getting a DAC, thank you for the clarification c:

Those M1 macs definitely have good DACs and decent enough amps, enough to get good sound out of those 660s (which seems like what you're getting!). If you're getting static at higher volumes, it definitely sounds like a bad dac/amp in your desktop motherboard.

Basically what you're likely hearing is electrostatic interference from the other electronics in your PC. An external dac/amp shields your audio from a lot of that interference. Also, the amp in your desktop may just be weak, or it may be a line out and not a headphone out. A line out is a very weak signal intended for further amplification.

Regardless, a dac/amp for your desktop definitely would not hurt! If I were you, I'd get one at some point. Generally, an amp is more important than a dac, but in your case, an external dac might help if the static/noise you're hearing really is from electronic interference.

You can get a dac/amp combo, which is convenient for a lot of people. I used to use a Fiio K5 Pro ($150) with my HD 650, and I'm sure they have never versions of those. They also have the E10K ($80) which is a bit cheaper and more portable. Though it's somewhat old now, so might be better options nowadays.

Schiit is also a popular option, with the Schiit Magni/Modi stack being a popular recommendation. I've used a Schiit Magni Heresy (amp) and can definitely vouch for it. I've also seen people recommend the Audioquest Dragonfly dac/amps, but I've never used those myself. And the JDS Labs Atom stack is a staple around here too. A Schiit Magni/Modi or JDS Labs Atom Dac/Amp stack could easily be all you ever need, plenty of power and very accurate measurement-wise. This option is ~$200 total for both a dac and an amp. Or $100 for each component separately based on your need.

Finally am actual critique

> I ended up getting them specifically as I was told it can be driven decently without an AMP/DAC (so I could use it on my tablet/phone with a dongle without too much of a setback)

Assuming the dongle you are using may be one of the Apple ones, this would suggest there is some merit to the new Macs' high impedance headphone jacks after all:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212856

Fancy that. :)

As far as recommendations for budget amps, the usual suspects apply: JDS Atom, Schiit Magni variant, Monoprice Liquid Spark (currently on sale for $80 right now), and probably a few others.

Whether if you will need a separate DAC for your specific setup remains to be seen, so the only way to know is to try for yourself. But assuming the source of your static is caused by your motherboard's headphone jack running out of steam at high volumes, then yes, it should be rectified by adding an external amp alone. Otherwise, this is where an external DAC can come into play to completely take your motherboard audio out of the equation.

Those AKG’s give me terrible flashbacks and remind me how disappointed I was after putting them on. My smile immediately turned into a frown.

Blessing 2 Dusks. Fucking love the sound of these. Arya would be close second.

Peaky treble could actually be a auditory health risk

NDH30. I haven’t touch my HD600 since I got them. I’m surprised it’s barely mentioned at all in the audiophile scene. They sound fantastic.