It depends. For my main wireless buds I can only get a seal with foam. But my iEMs, I actually enjoy the silicone.

Bro, you should’ve just bought Moondrop variations and an apple dongle.

Focal Radiance - went in to demo the Bathys, came out with the Radiance and a Fiio btr7 as I realised that most of the time I'd be tethered to my laptop and the times I wasn't, this still sounded better than the Bathys to overcome the slight annoyance of cables.

For IEMS it's my trusty Jerry Harvey JH7's, so clear and the sound is like it's coming from inside your head (but that's a good thing).

It almost has me tempted to buy both. Even if I buy the OG first and absolutely love them, I will always be wondering what the other sounds like. FOMO is a major thing. I just can reason having both of those headphones & keeping both, because at that point, I might as well just get the Utopia lol. Which, yes that has crossed my mind, but then I’m wondering is there any more improvement after a certain point, and I’ve talked myself out of the Utopia. I just don’t have the funds to justify spending $3k+ on headphones. I also haven’t even experienced the $1k range & I know there’s so many more than perfect ones in there. I know new versions isn’t always better, as I found the HD 600 to be the best version for me.

Also, I see our music tastes are very different, and I see you said you like bass heavy music. I typically am listening to a lot of strings music (yes I know plenty of strings do have deep bass) and live performances and what not. So clarity and instrument separation in big mixes is important to me. Upon reading about every article I could find, once I have the money, I’m going to buy the Clear Mg Pro and I will come back with all the good, bad, and ugly.

thx man <3

I'm in the honeymoon phase with the Zmf Auture Classics right now. Amazing tonality and top tier imaging.

Yep. They’re basically old open backs converted into cheap closed backs, right? I kinda think about buying modern k240 and iPod to have something slightly better than phone and wireless and something more mobile than pc and wired headphones. But that’s rather in long term. Akg 361/371BT are more prone to bend/break band due to battery and microphone stuck into it. There’s extreme horizontal force on it and only slight peace of metal keeping it in shape. If not the band I would rank them extremely high especially considering audio quality for the price.

Those 660s2 peaking your interest at all?

I haven't, I was thinking MG because I read it was more bass-heavy, but the Clear seem to be more of the favorite overall from my research, and it's half the price now so I went with the Clear OG. No complaints. I bought them final sale so I definitely understand but honestly it's the best headphone purchase I've made.

Yeah, not all AKGs are the same, i also have a pair of k371s (wired ones tho) and they're pretty good, i like them a lot (even their build quality, haven't had problems) but the k52/72/92 are probably among the worst "known brand" over ear headphones.

everything there seems like weird choices.

Yeah, I got the lcd-x and was disappointed I wasn't expecting the Clears to sound so good and I think bass everything is just right and I listen to bass heavy stuff, but it's at a level I can listen to for long sessions. Some of those bass-heavy phones just give me a headache after a while.

You’re gonna call akgs bad? I know build quality is terrible but I’m using 371bt for like 3rd week of intensive usage without charging or connecting via cable. I needed to exchange one pair coz it broke but overall they’re ok. And they stayed for a few months longer than my Beats Flex I bought just to keep any wireless buds in my pocket (they seemed well suited coz they work long without need to recharge but don’t have charging cube. Plus all the weight lays on neck).

Have you ever heard the Clear Mg Pro? It kinda seems like the OG Clear are more towards consumers and have a U shaped tuning versus the mg pro being more flat and neutral. I love how the Hd 600 doesn’t really color the music or anything, at least I thought. Could be wrong. I just don’t wanna regret a purchase of $1000 or so.

Want to try these hear that bass is great.

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/hd800-french-mod-aka-superdupont-resonator.1147/

I'd say just the typical open back issues, depending on environment volume may need to go louder, but I just drive them either with my DAP (fiio m11 plus), or bluetooth with my ifi go blu bluetooth dac. I haven't had any comfort issues I love how the Clears fit and everything just sounds great to me.

Hd 660S. Had 600, too forward midrange. Had 650, uninspiring treble. DT 770, poorer imaging than 660s, otherwise nothing wrong. M50x, no soul. Oppo PM3, perfect bass and midrange, terrible treble. 660s does not show any major flaw, and shines in its exceptional imaging. Well there goes my Sunday answer.

I would honestly just buy one good pair of headphones that has the value of those 4 combined. But I think it depends on a use case scenario. I figure the airpods would just be for convenience

Preference is so crazy, i have the Clears and sony, and if the situation allows I'm reaching for the Clears. I think I just prefer headphones over iems, but the sonys are great which is why I still have them.

Seymour! My ears are on fire!

Yeah, good company. I have an issue with mine where sometimes it goes unresponsive as I run it 24/7. They shipped me a replacement with no questions asked and before I even sent my original back, but the replacement still does it but just at way less frequency.

Otherwise it makes switching between my headphones and speakers a damn breeze.

Did you just grow ears this week?! I mean I have pour money management skills too but sheesh!

Make sure you aren't putting them in too deep. Get them to where you have a decent seal in your ears but don't go crazy shoving them in. Also twist them when taking them during insertion and taking them out.

How are they modded?