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madamon89 t1_j6osz0v wrote

Most people have covered it, but to elaborate a bit...

In the studio musicians are rarely playing live with the rest of the band, and even if they are playing with the rest of the band they will often be isolated in their own room. The headphones are there so they can hear the rest of the music and/or click track/whatever else they need to hear. This is done because when recording music engineers generally want to get each instrument recorded separately so they can easily manipulate whatever they want on that instrument without causing any issues for the other ones. If, for example, we had a bass and drums in the same room, if one of them made even the tiniest mistake you'd have to re-record both instruments (the bass would be heard in the drum mics, and the drums would be heard in the bass mic(s)). If the instruments are separate then you could just re-record whatever little part you needed to. This also applies to any other treatment the engineer might do, compression, EQ, pitch/timing adjustments..etc. Its basically always better to have the instruments separate for most modern recordings. Things like orchestras often record as a group because the interaction of that many instruments in a room sounds different than just playing each instrument separately and playing them back at the same time, and most classical recordings aren't going for the same level of inhuman perfection that most pop/rock/other modern genres are.

For live performances it's because of a few things, but mostly 1) stage monitors kinda suck, and 2) stages are often really loud. In ear monitors allow musicians to hear everything they need more clearly and at a significantly lower volume than without.

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BehindThyCamel t1_j6or5r8 wrote

Correct on both accounts.

In the studio you want to capture just the voice so you isolate the singer from the rest of the band, whether live or prerecorded.

Hearing the band while on stage is notoriously problematic. You either just hear the instruments/amplifiers, in which case you only really hear the closest ones to you, or you have stage monitors ("wedges") that add to the already high volume, or you have the sound engineer feed your preferred mix into your in-ear monitors where you can have reasonable volume and prevent damaging your hearing.

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thatcarolguy t1_j6or574 wrote

The noise floor doesn't matter when you are listening to music. It is a replacement for high end. Now I can get rid of my Dusk, have a much more stable/comfortable fit and never worry about breaking my fragile $330 IEM.

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fri98 t1_j6or0x4 wrote

There are different reasons, sometimes is so they can listen their own voice, other times it includes the tick of a metronome (to keep the pitch or pace of the song), sometimes even to hear the next lines, etc. But normally is to hear their on voice, coordination with the rest of the band, and the pitch.

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thatcarolguy t1_j6oqjwb wrote

It is incredibly groundbreaking. It completely Destroyed the Chu and made it obsolete while the Chu already did that to the $20 price bracket.

And there is no such thing as the technical department. It's imagined by people who can't accept that a $20 IEM is the real deal.

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DegenDreamer t1_j6oqhq4 wrote

Both have to do with being able to hear what you're doing.

The singer needs to hear the track in order to sing to it when recording. If you use anything other than headphones you'll pick that up in the vocal mic.

Musicians moved to in-ear monitors because hearing everything through stage monitors kind of sucks. The speed of sound is really slow so you're hearing things coming from all over the place not perfectly in sync. In-ear monitors fixes this, the whole band gets the perfect monitor mix wherever they are on stage.

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IMKGI t1_j6ophy8 wrote

Well i am pretty sure they are listening to the instrumental while singing, keeping rythm with something you can't hear is rather difficult

Probably a similar reason for life performance, makes it easier to hear the instruments with all the noise coming from the viewers

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Ok-Fennel-3908 OP t1_j6op386 wrote

Running a optical cable around the room would not be a huge deal. I just don’t know how you would get the mic to work with Xbox for game chat with that setup. Xbox does not use Bluetooth audio through controller so it does not sound bad. I can’t tell a difference from plugging into my gaming laptop or my Xbox controller for sound quality. I do have a par of astro a50 but the sound quality to the gx is much more to my liking.

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thatcarolguy t1_j6op2kj wrote

You can EQ all of those things if you have no un-EQable flaws. For example the Quarks DSP and the Dusk are the only 2 IEMs I have heard that do not have a timbre killing treble spike somewhere after 10k.

As for EQing them to the same target, it doesn't matter. I would never get it perfectly right and they are already close enough that it comes down to a matter of preference which one I think is better for what music depending on the production (EG, if there is tons of sub bass already I will prefer the Dusk, if there is a lot of warmth in the lower mids I will prefer the Quarks) but mostly I can take either so by default it goes to the one that is 1/20th the price, fits more comfortably and is not fragile.

If I were actually able to EQ them exactly the same they would just be the same IEM and sound exactly the same.

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