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In theory there shouldnt be that great of a difference, the thing that sucks most with onboard audio is the high output impedance, which could cause some bass bloat with low impedance headphones.

However, I would be carefull with that Fosi DAC tho, it might actually change the sound. I had the fosi k5 pro, which is related to the Q4. The K5 pro noticeably changed the frequency response, reason for that are the bass/treble knob. even when the bass and treble knob are in neutral position, the frequency response isnt flat, it still had less bass and treble than it should have.

That may make a bass/treble heavy headphone like the cloud2 more neutral, which could be interpreted as better sound, but can make properly tuned headphones like the dt900 pro x sound worse.

Honestly, i would just avoid all dacs with treble/bass knobs and would probably not get anything that hasnt been properly tested by a 3rd party.

I'm not the person you were replying to, but I wanna re-iterate the audio enhancement stuff built into windows.

Amps/dacs are not a new tech, and considering you have a recent motherboard there should NOT be this big of a difference between your new amp and the on-board audio, especially not with a gaming headset.

Go to the windows control panel, search sound, click the sound options, under the playback tab find your on-board audio, click it then hit properties, then check each tab to make sure your settings are correct. Specifically, go to the enhancements tab and disable ALL of them, and go to the spatial sound tab and make sure that's off too. Anything else that's not pure volume control that you might find, also turn it off. You can also go to the advanced tab and change the sample rate and bit depth to something higher but as long as it's not commicaly low it shouldn't be making a difference.

Do this for the on-board audio, AND the new dac/amp you have. My guess is that one of them has some enhancements on that's changing your sound. If it's not in this control panel setting, then there might be an audio suite of some sort for your motherboard.

The best I can do for $200 is Sennheiser HD 560S (preferably a pre-2022 revision pair, I haven't heard the 2022 revision but I'm reading bad things about it).

Music? Cryovile and Cecile Monique in lossless, of course.

> Hifiman: " Lemme intoduce you to our cheaper tonally similar $6,000 headphone..."

I'm very new here, but susvara?

If he isn't interested, he isn't going to be impressed by even he-1.

And that's okay.

RIP

Can I ask what the connection issue is with IE300? Haven't read about it before, so just curious.

smol

>If you're advertising your product, why would you be neutral about it?

I literally said it makes sense why he isn't, but all his fanboys present him as though he's a purely data driven authority when he isn't.

>Go read a detailed page on whatever you're looking up if you want more objectivity

Gee, I never thought of that!

Kph40 is pretty shocking imo. If you have a source already a hd6xx.

I have several headsets at home and indeed the HD599s are the most comfortable. There are times when I don't even remember I'm wearing them.

In the 200 range, I'd look at IEMs, most headphones won't really provide enough of an upgrade. As far as songs go, my usual benchmark/test is Untethered Angel by Dream Theater, it hammers both the treble and bass simultaneously with extremely fine detail, and it's got some S+ tier recording and mastering

Why don’t you just let your friend be perfectly content instead of dragging him down this hole with you?

Sennhesier HD 560s.

I will :)

Especially if they use fancy and absurd analogies to describe the sound :)

What you described is similar to what I hear with amp vs no amp. Can’t go back

Tubes may add distortion. Good tube amps can be as "clean" as good solid state amps tho.

High output impedance, which tube amps usually have, can change the sound of variable impedance headphones.

You know that... Right???

So he wasted 2k on tubes, when EQ could have done the trick?

lmao

Nitter

Im happy for both of you since you both where put out of your misery

Unless you want to risk getting a second hand Sundara, maybe HD560S but I don't think there's anything else that's better than the Sony's at that price point

If the measurements found online are of any substance, just applying EQ to the 7506 should already do a lot.

Dongle, 'cause you can check what's playing without much guessing

Beach boys are mind blowing in good audio