Flat.

Will reply with more details later Just got it last week and I listen to exactly same bands

This looks sick, gonna start looking for one I think.

Really cool you got to try all of them! I’m surprised you didn’t try a Clear though? If you ever for a moment think you’re getting tired/bored of Arya, buy yourself a Clear but also keep Arya. These two headphones complement each other so well. I think I could forever bounce between them and never want anything new.

I still use HD650s as my “every day” headphone that’s attached to my PC. That’s where I take my zoom calls & game etc. I’ve had them for over 10 years!

But Arya and Clear are my “it’s time to really enjoy music” headphones.

So find headphones that aren't tuned around it. What are your preferences?

Just did a bit of back and forth between the stock sound and Oratory's EQ. It's pretty song (and even part of song) dependant and I think the "night and day difference" comment I made comes a lot more from the enjoyment / impact of the changes for me than the actual objective changes.

If I were to try and give a % difference in the sound I would say it's maybe 10-20% different depending on the part of the FR you're talking about but the increase in enjoyment and "fun" and other subjective aspects for me is pretty substantial. Things feel less thin and have more body and impact to them and I find it noticeably more fun to listen to even though the measured difference may be small, if that makes sense. To me the sound stage even sounds a bit wider but that could be the type of music I listen to and the dominant frequencies in them or even just a trick of the brain / ears, I'm not sure.

There are also sonic differences from person to person because of their ear canals and such never mind the mental subjectivity. So just like this hobby as a whole is highly subjective EQ adjustments are also highly subjective depending on a lot of factors.

The problem is its dominating the market and everything is getting tuned around it. New product? Harman curve. Boo!

I don't think there is such a thing. The only way to find this out is to basically un-compensate graphs and revert them to raw.

You could get yourself some test equipment and just purely measure the dB across a sine sweep on various headphones until you find one with no dips or peaks anywhere, but I doubt you'd find any set thats truly flat.

I think the whole point of the Harman curve is that they tested the preferences of a bunch of people and came up with an average preference.

I don't understand why you have a problem a line on the graph thats basically arbitrary. You can still use it to find headphones that you like. If you like less bass, find sets that fall under the harman curve in the bass region on an FR graph. Like more treble? Find one thats above the curve in the treble region.

Fiio K7 is perfect for me. With my Edition XS I run them on low gain with a balanced cable and run them at around 12-2 o'clock on the dial depending on source.

love these cans. slick, smooth, thick, tight. keep it up, and don’t stop posting pics

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The graphs are pointless since the models are different and high frequencies are always going to be different(ear to ear) even if the graphs match.

They're surprisingly alright for mainstream earbuds.

Used a pair of these for a couple of years for gaming before I got into chi-fi stuff.

Answer 1: No one would know what you will think. You can wait 1 more day and let us know.

Answer 2: HD560S needs 9 mW to support peaks/transients of 110 dB, 27 mW to 115 dB. Not difficult to meet. But will be marginal for dongle. Dongles typically don't list detailed specs. Apple dongle output 31 mW at 32 ohm; 3.6 mW at 300 ohm. It is around that 9mW at 150 ohm; it will not meet 27 mW at 150 ohm. So it will depend on how loud you listen and what type of music/recording (and dynamic range in the recording).

Also, if you care about audio quality, $10 dongles (including Apple dongle) do not sound as good, compared to better dongles and desktop setup.

No eq for wird headphones via Sennheiser app. You'd need a dedicated eq App

No eq for wird headphones via Sennheiser app. You'd need a dedicated eq App.

Don't worry mate, I didn't think you were sniping at my review :D
I was pretty sad reading what happened to you, and I agree on the fact that everyone's opinion and experience is good value in these cases.
Hopefully nobody will run into your problem (that case, the company will need to act properly I guess).

The best way to get the most out of any headphone is to use an EQ preset made by someone like r/oratory1990 to smooth out the frequency response that engineers weren’t able to smooth out themselves via hardware. You don’t need an amp for these. The “mind blowing”ness of headphones mostly comes from an addiction to buying new cool tech, but your headphone should sound pretty amazing. Especially with EQ!

Fair point. I need to explain better, remember I come from speakers more than headphones.

Many amps/speakers I have listened to can lose the front/primary vocal in the imaging/soundstage. The real strong systems do a better job of separating that vocal and placing it in front of everything else, so you get a wide soundstage with the perception of the vocalist being front middle. Obviously the recording has to be done right, but this is one of the things I look for in higher end systems.

>Asgard 3

Have you used the DAC version of this? The DAC in the BlueSound Node is OK, but I'm wondering if this one is better. This looks like a nice piece.

Thank you. I'm learning a lot about these headphones. There are a zillion balanced cables out there, I'll add that to my list once I figure out how I drive these.

I'm considering the NAIM Uniti Atom since it can stream, drive speakers, has a great DAC, and is good with headphones. I use Tidal HiFi as my source, and that is a good match also.

I was actually shocked how good the KSC75 (with headband) are for gaming. I got accused of X-ray vision in splitgate but the Koss’s are just really good for hearing enemy positions.

Just pack them loosely in her bag and book her a flight on Southwest.

The XS has one of the widest soundstage for a headphone with exception sennheiser hd800s.

But it needs a good match when it comes to amp, not only are they powerhungry but source dependent too.

Recommended to use balanced cable as the stock un balanced cable is pretty bad and going to balanced is pretty big difference in this case, check other reviews about this