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timsams_ t1_j69ig63 wrote

Thanks for that link. I have the LCDXC and it's basically an LCDX with cups on it. I wondered if I could just slap the cups on my LCD2C and be done. I haven't heard the LCD2 closed but if they implemented that kind of filter, they must be better tuned than the LCDXC, which is a total mess compared to LCDX (no bass, harsh/painful tremble, unusable for me).

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The_D0lph1n t1_j69iehd wrote

You can get it from your local/regional Stax dealer, depending on availability. I just bought a pair of new L700 earpads from HeadAmp, but I'm in the US, so it's an easy option for me. I couldn't find a list of Stax dealers in Europe, but you're probably more familiar with the dealer landscape there than I am.

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dadu1234 OP t1_j69hr9i wrote

Reply to comment by kingdrew2007 in It arrived!! by dadu1234

they are competing for sure as they are in the same price bracket. I like the z12 but you can surely hear the planar metallic sound to it and the treble on the z12 is spicier than the ie200. I think sennheiser hit a sweet spot with this one, it can definitely compete with chi-fi iem in the same price bracket.

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The_Incredible_Rook OP t1_j69h0q5 wrote

Yes, I was already planning on doing that! I've actually read your comment on another post from a year ago about it when I was looking into it, right after I booked the demo.

Will probably order it soon :)

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Edit: What's the best place to get them from? Offical Stax website, or are there good alternatives?

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Gamergtx_260 t1_j69fhju wrote

The only headphones that I loved were the LCD 3 pre fazors. I had my Ragnarok + yggy and they sounded the best. They were the most musical headphones I have ever experienced. I had only a handful of high end headphones (Hd 800, Beyer T1, lcd x, xc, 3s) but it was only for like 30 mins before the right side stopped working. Sent in for repair and got back with fazors attached making them sound like mainstream headphones.

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abhikkp t1_j69eyjx wrote

Reply to comment by blorg in These are not the same by disco_g

Very much appreciate how cordial this interaction has been :)

I will read through all of this! On your note about APO -- I don't use any onboard software EQ.

Finally, I have used my IEMs with the iFi Gryphon as well, which has a Burr-Brown chip and is supposed to be "warmer" than other devices but I found literally no difference between the Gryphon and the Apple Dongle in sound quality or frequency response. And even the Gryphon sounds less bassy than my TC44C unless I enable Gryphon's bass boost. Maybe it's just the interaction between my TC44C and my IEMs but that's what I've found in my daily use case.

Nonetheless, clearly, you have a ton of personal experience in the hobby, so I will absolutely respect your expertise and opinion on this matter. I just think my anecdotal experience is also worth sharing!

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The_D0lph1n t1_j69ej1j wrote

That combo is one of the best deals I've seen in the modern Stax world. A neat trick with the L series is that you can buy the L700's earpads and swap them onto the L500 to get something more similar to the L700 sound. Not required by any means, but it's an interesting flavor change that's also wayyy cheaper than getting the L700 itself. That was the route I originally wanted to go with, but the store was also out of the L500, so they offered me a used L700 at an incredible price, so how could I refuse? If you ever want to mix it up, perhaps look into swapping the earpads. Otherwise, enjoy the setup!

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blorg t1_j69d6ie wrote

Reply to comment by abhikkp in These are not the same by disco_g

There are other measurements, like I linked in the first post, showing the TC44C is entirely linear and has no bass boost. I'm just doing this measurement again with an actual IEM in there (from the same company and of similar impedance to yours) in case it could be something like the effect of output impedance on the impedance curve of the headphone- although in this case the output impedance of the dongles is both extremely low, and 64 Audio as you say yourself has their LID technology with very flat impedance curves.

I'm open to there being certain differences, or interactions... like I said I have issues with the Helios on the TC44B, although I'd blame the Helios for that.

I just object to people characterizing stuff like a DAC/amp that measures entirely flat in frequency response as being "extremely bassy". It's just not. "Extremely bassy" is frequency response and it's measurable, and it's not there. Maybe there is something else that doesn't come up... but a tonal difference like that will be there in the frequency response.

One thing that sometimes can happen to cause this, is if you have some setting that is different between the two devices, like you have a bass boost APO attached to the TC44C, but not to the other devices. That is exactly the sort of thing that could cause this.

I don't have the Cayin RU6. Wolf/L7, Archimago and SBAF have measurements though. It doesn't measure well objectively. Archimago liked it though, or at least appreciated it wasn't trying to be high fidelity but was a device "with character" aiming for a certain type of sound. The others, not so much.

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