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knightopusdei t1_j6n9ij7 wrote

Never understand how parents think it's a cute idea to place a child next to a pet dog or cat. I love dogs and cats, I don't have one any more but I've had both in the past and I treated them good and respected them. But a lesson I learned from my parents was that all animals are unpredictable no matter how well you think of them. Cats and dogs grow to have the mental capacity of maybe a three or four year old human and never grow past that. The difference is that they have claws and teeth. So my mom would often remind me what might happen if you left a three or four year old sitting around the house with a little knife in their hands. You might train them to not use the knife and be careful with it ..... but eventually they'll end up cutting something or someone for no obvious reason, not because they are mean or angry or scared but because they just don't know what they are doing.

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Rabid_Kiwi t1_j6n6oby wrote

Reply to comment by Gently_Rough_ in Walking parrots by FrankieGS

https://www.forbes.com/sites/grrlscientist/2021/10/18/highly-intelligent-pet-parrots-most-likely-to-damage-their-feathers/?sh=793e11b058b8

https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html4ever/2005/051221.Garner.parrots.html

I can do this all day. They need the flock, with out it they bond to one person. They can not be alone, they need a companion 24/7. When this is a human, and the human leaves for the day, it causes separation anxiety that turns in to mental illness. They will then start feather-pluck, and become progressively more hostile and violent.

They can’t be alone, it’s part of their evolution. That is why they mate for life. That is why you really need a team of people working with them. To stop them from ever being alone, also to prevent them from bonding with one human. Bonding with a human is bad because they think that they are human. They will stop wanting to socialize with other birds and primarily socialize with one human. Think of cray teenage obsession. Some even think that the feather-pluck is to make them look more human.

Most of them have personalities that lean towards vanity, appearance is very important to them. Think “small town what would the neighbors think” turned up to 11. Because again they are very social creatures, why they need the flock. Good keepers know to tell the birds and then groom them before guests or new people come. Yes they are that self aware!

This is why they can’t be raised in homes, as pets. They need open space to fly, they need a flock of their own kind, they need little to no human interaction. That is what they need. If you want to help volunteer/donate/create good bird sanctuaries near you. People who will train you and teach you how to give it the best life you can. If we invest the money used on them as house pets, into bird sanctuaries and rehabilitation. End the practice of them as pets, then we can really target poachers.

You just got to accept that we damage them any time we have contact with them. Because we don’t understand them, and they are very complex.

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MisogynyisaDisease t1_j6n4e07 wrote

Reply to comment by LongBongJohnSilver in Walking parrots by FrankieGS

Thank you for being sane about this.

I've always wanted an African Grey, but I won't do it until I'm in a position to give a rescue the most time and best exercise and living environment I can.

I'll stick with dogs, who are perfectly happy to just snuggle and go on runs/hikes and chew the countless rawhides I've gifted them.

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MisogynyisaDisease t1_j6n3e7k wrote

Reply to comment by Gently_Rough_ in Walking parrots by FrankieGS

Theyre intelligent, and can become depressed or even go insane while in captivity.

If you got placed in a cage for years with nobody to talk to, and you couldn't go for a walk by yourself or find love, how exactly would you fare?

Sure, there are lots of good bird owners out there who do their best. But for every good bird owner, I knew 5 more growing up who just threw a sheet over their way-to-small bird cage to shut up their parrot.

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wolff000 t1_j6ms1j0 wrote

Reply to comment by sfhitz in Walking parrots by FrankieGS

Technically, yes if you live in an area that has the right weather you technically could keep them that way.

However pigeons are domesticated. And happily live in a coop. Most parrots are not going to live in something like that. Instinct will drive them to go make a nest. You would have a few that hang around for food but most would just fly off at some point.

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wolff000 t1_j6mrbcr wrote

Reply to comment by Gently_Rough_ in Walking parrots by FrankieGS

Sorry no. Stop trying to make wild animals pets. They are not domesticated and never will be. You can literally never get the animal the exercise it needs. Wild parrots fly hundreds of miles a day and live in colonies of hundreds if not thousands of other parrots. How do you think you can possibly recreate any of that in your house? You claim to love a wild animal then keep it in captivity. Your arguments are the exact ones used to justify keeping chimps and tigers as pets. These animals will always be better off outside not in your house.

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reddragon105 t1_j6mqpbb wrote

Yeah, they're not the easiest plants to keep alive! My first one only lasted 9 months - it went dormant for the winter and then just didn't wake up.

My second one is going on for 2 years now - I bought it some higher quality soil and a bigger pot, one where you can water it from the bottom so the soil is always just damp, which is what they like.

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PantsIsDown t1_j6mlry8 wrote

Why isn’t he flying them like kites over his shoulder? This looks so stressful for his back, it’s like he’s running with puppets.

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