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SerialChilIer t1_j0uynq1 wrote

I really don’t know how schools and universities will combat this technology. ChatGPT is already able to make various forms of prompts you input, not just one. And this technology is still very new, imagine how good it will be in 5-10 years.

Schools are going to have to adapt how they handle certain assignments. I have no clue how.

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checker280 t1_j0utyju wrote

Not really. I never used it for chats over coffee. I simply needed to ask simple questions like “where is your tv?”, “where do you use the internet?”, and “where is the electrical outlet?”

Just being able to get to that level of easy communication without (this was the Verizon way) calling up an 800 number, passing my cell to the customer, customer has a lively chat with the operator about why I’m here and what needs to be done, with me standing by stupidly while the operator over promises what I can do (of course he’s going to hide all the wires and feed your cat!!), and then ends the call, which inevitably leads to “can you point me toward an electrical outlet?” and puzzled looks.

Can you describe that sentence without props with hand gestures?

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[deleted] t1_j0urx5p wrote

i think that anyone old enough to prefer a keyboard or philosophically/spiritually against technology would also probably find this device unsettling, so i think the only market would be hipsters who want a novelty gift. that said, i'm sure it has plenty of value to it's creator. it's just not something that belongs in a world that's trying to get to zero net carbon emissions if you ask me.

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checker280 t1_j0uraj9 wrote

The closest “value” I can think of is a connection for a much older generation but that market disappears in a few years.

I was a cable installer. I was always flabbergasted to find adults, sometimes much younger than myself, completely overwhelmed by new tech and an abundance of choice.

Too many people didn’t want me to explain the remote control past “how to find my stories and change the volume”. Personally I got paid by the hour. If you needed me to teach you how to use on demand for an hour that was simply part of the job.

Having tactile keys to press could be useful to some of those luddites but I’m stretching to find a reason to sell this.

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ThePhoneBook t1_j0uqven wrote

You realise that all that's happening is your clients are aware of the limits of the translation and are accommodating to it, yes? Machine translation has got a bit better over two decades, but humans have got much better over two decades at realising they're reading machine translations and either making sure the input is basic or correcting mentally for deficiencies in the output. I'm at the point where I expect shit translations but I ask myself, "Why did the computer say it like this?" and meanwhile am depressed that the average article has the reading age of a 12 year old to accommodate for all this automated processing. Compare a reputable newspaper's writing style in the 1980s to today, or even look at the enjoyable turn of phrase of publications like the New Yorker and contrast with modern clickbait style.

This is like the trope about French people preferring to speak in English than tolerating your terrible French. They've taken the opposite attitude to Silicon Valley America, which expects everyone to race down to the lowest common denominator of man and machine - they don't want to have to dumb themselves down to your level of French.

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hawkinsst7 t1_j0uqi7s wrote

Years ago, I had what would probably be a shower thought, but really I was just coming from dental surgery :

We can do arcane gestures on a slab of metal and glass, and magically know more, communicate with other, or even affect the real world.

Really puts into context Arthur c. Clarke's quote.

>“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”

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checker280 t1_j0uq0zx wrote

My (M60) WTF moment with tech that everyone else just shrugs over is the tech behind Google Translate.

I discovered Word Lens in 2010.

I was fascinated with Optical Character Recognition programs at the time - it was a way of taking a photo of text, recognizing the text well enough to not only understand what was written but create an editable file.

Word Lens took that to another level when it not only understood what was written but was able to translate it to another language almost as fast as it would take the camera lens to focus on that portion of the screen.

It’s even more impressive that the dictionaries were tiny.

I recall being fascinating by the Palm Pilots decades earlier - particularly the part where you were carrying around word processing and text editing capabilities in the palm of your hand. This was next level magic.

While the dictionaries were cheap - maybe $5 - nobody seemed to care enough to want to pay.

Fast forward to today, after Google buys Word Lens then folds it into their Google Translate and makes it just another feature that most of my peers just overlook.

I’m constantly looking for opportunities to use it. I read the free foreign language newspaper found in most major cities. I translate the menus of my favorite ethnic restaurants. As an installer, I used to create Flashcards in real time to communicate with my immigrant customers.

It really is Star Trek level tech

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ThePhoneBook t1_j0upk83 wrote

Hm, I think every geek made a chatting computer from Acornsoft's Speech or DECtalk or whatever the Amiga and Atari equivalents were in the '80s, but it wasn't so logorrheic or self-confidently wrong as ChatGPT. It's really hard to have a nice conversation with ChatGPT - like if you want to let it out then a much dumber interface that's closer to Eliza is more helpful, and if you need a question answered then a search engine + existing human responses are way more useful. I hope we get to the point with ChatGPT that we already seem to be at with DALL-E, where we say "oh that's fun" but understand that it's not thinking anything like a human and so is more fun and useful in very specific cases than as a general intelligence.

I feel like ChatGPT's basic vision is to simulate a mediocre software engineer who thinks they're a genius in every field, and we have millions of them already. In this sense maybe OpenAI is performative art of Genesis God making human life in His image.

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Kwahn t1_j0um0pe wrote

My dad, who was a huge fan of Atari, NES and arcade games in the 70's to 90's, saw Angry Birds and was like, "oh my god, it responds to your touch with physics? It's so smoothly animated! How did they get such high quality images to be so small? It has HOW MANY LEVELS? On a phone, where you can take it with you anywhere?"

It's amazing what we take for granted every day that someone used to other standards spots!

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