Should they continue to invest money into something no one wants ?

"Especially with a lot of the interactions in VR lobbies"

I took a chance with the VAVA lt002. They have a bunch on EBAY for 1200-1500 and its the same once being sold new on their site for 2700. It is fantastic and the 4k is great.

I would love to see some of the 3x laser ones but its hard imagine how much better it can be. The BIG negative on the VAVA is the software. Its hot garbage. You need a streaming device to use with it. I also went with a open box vava ALR screen on amazon and it was a good price and nice quality

Questionable for children under 16? Wtf why would that be?

Nah you just don't know what you're doing. People are already in the metaverse it's called VRchat and I know people who spend 12 hours a day in there with 10000 hours played. People even sleep in VR.

I'm assuming you only tried beatsaber and some random shovelware to have this opinion.

> We have seen what happens when Apple developed their own butterfly keyboard because they didn't want to continue paying keyboard patents.

Source? Pretty sure this is entirely made up. They just switched to the butterfly switch because it was thinner.

No they're not lmao

Five years of product support. That’s pathetic.

Funny enough the free games are some of the best experiences. There are some damn good $20-$40 games but 9.99 are all standing in place stuff. Not for me. I enjoy shooters.

And elite dangerous if your into that kinda thing 🤓

My experiences with the Surface Pro 3 and the Lumia lost micosoft a customer for life. I'm sure they don't care. But I can't be alone.

In what world do you need more than 60 hz for 99% of "office work"? This isn't designed for gaming. And no one is going to benefit from running 240hz in Excel and Powerpoint.

That headset poisoned the well of VR (as most Facebook/Oculus things did), by making people think VR was accessible and enjoyable untethered--not just wireless, but no PC.

Untethered is accessible, it's not long term enjoyable. Tethered VR is the opposite. It's long term enjoyable but not accessible. A major problem continues to be the amount of available content, as the comfort problem is rapidly improving with the Index and newer HTC headsets.

I would compare it to owning an early EV. They were expensive, not great, and not feasible for longer trips because charging wasn't there. Nobody wanted to build chargers or faster charging because people didn't want to buy EVs that couldn't go anywhere and took forever to charge, and because people didn't want to buy them they weren't building chargers or making improvements to charging/batteries. It's the same story with VR and VR Content.

It's not that VR isn't reaching the realm of being great the same way EVs were years back--it's that people don't want to buy them because there isn't enough to do on them. There has to be a threshold soon where either untethered VR actually gets great--which I doubt happens in the next 5 or maybe even 10 years--or wireless, PC VR is cheap and accessible enough that people are willing to get a PC to go with it.

That type of advance is what eventually got EVs the infrastructure they needed. The hardware has to advance before the content, but it's good enough now to not be a gimmick. Good enough to be a smart purchase for gamers is another question, unless you're into Sim.

quest 2 was out then source I bought mine Christmas 2020 I assume that's why people are down voting you.

I love that they still advertise the latest version with the hot new game...Beat Saber!

But being blind in one eye, I've never been the target market I guess...

Curved monitors are still out of the budget limits of most of our clients. We haven't had an order for any yet. We're mostly deploying 22" or 24" bezel-less HP Elite Displays.

All my C levels have ditched multiple monitors setups for curved ultrawides. 3 x 8.5x11 with no wasted screen real estate in a smaller footprint.

VR is great, I still use my OG Vive. Meta sucks though.

In terms of docks with power delivery and port options this pricetag is reasonable.

Same here. It quit working when I deleted my facebook account. Beat Saber was a lot of fun for a couple years.

Yeah well actually the real reason had failed was because Windows on arm failed. That's why they canceled the neo and then the last minute they tried to shoehorn the duo onto Android.

And you're right it was a mess.

But it was really just a last-minute hail Mary. They actually designed these products to be used on a Windows mobile operating system on arm and that is what failed

Microsoft has just not been able to get arm-based mobile products right. Not only do they cancel the neo and the windows 10x operating system, but the surface pro x, Windows phone

All of that said you can find the surface duo OG for 250 brand new come in '99 for a grade C used.

It's absolutely worth it just as a e-reader alone.

Yeah I don't think I would ever buy a full prize Microsoft product again. I mean at least not on a high end device.

The only way I would ever consider something like that is if I was finding a crazy deal on the resale market.

I wouldn't spend over $1,000 on a surface pro 9. I'd like the form factor but I just don't trust the company.

But if I could find a surface pro 6 for 250 bucks on Woot or something that's basically the only way I would patronize Microsoft flagship products anymore.

Yeah I'm sure if he reads this post he will try to claim this foldable is technically still part of that plan or something.

But it doesn't really pass the credibility test.

Windows Central guys obviously depend on Microsoft for virtually 90% of their news and access so I always take anything they say with a grain of salt. Whether it's subconscious or fanboyism or just survival for there product, they're really never going to be super critical of Microsoft for an active product.

Zac it's already essentially accepting Microsoft's claims that face value that they're committed to Android which seems extremely dubious on its face.

I don't mean to be too critical, I enjoy their podcast occasionally. There's a niche, if you are interested in some of these unique devices there's not that much coverage since all the YouTubers basically just talk about Apple or Samsung all the time.

But they're not going to bite the hands that feeds them. Even if they try to be objective, survival and subconscious bias would probably get in the way