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Kurotan t1_jaecfe8 wrote

"bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt"

None of these are actually coins or bills though.

A bank bill is "a document signed by a bank agreeing to pay the amount that is named on it" and the rest of those are similar. Just documents of agreement to pay or debt.

331 is the one to be concerned with.

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SpecialistAd5537 t1_jaec3le wrote

18 USC 333

"Whoever mutilates, cuts, defaces, disfigures, or perforates, or unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, or Federal Reserve bank, or the Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such bank bill, draft, note,or other evidence of debt unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."

Edit for clarity: Coins are evidence of debt issued by either the federal Reserve or national banking system so they are absolutely included.

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snewz404 t1_jaebtta wrote

Pretty sure he and Newsom recently had a conversation and Elon will be moving back to California.

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Kurotan t1_jaebkr6 wrote

>Federal statute 18 USC 331 “whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”

Our law specifically mentions fraud. So if we make jewelry, it's okay ( because a coin ring could never be used as currency). If we intend to alter it for fraud, then we are in trouble.

333 specially calls out "bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt", no mention of coins.

475 appears to be a general counterfeit law and also mentions business cards and anything business related on top of making currency from scratch.

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SpecialistAd5537 t1_jaeak0b wrote

No just defacing is illegal due to it changing the amount of currency in circulation.

Criminal Code of Canada - section 456 - Defacing current coins. 456 Every one who (a) defaces a current coin, or (b) utters a current coin that has been defaced, is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction

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