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Pressed_Thumb t1_jahey3d wrote
Reply to comment by laufhannes in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
I don't think it makes sense to compare absolute pay gaps. At least, present it together with a percentual value and sort the countries by the relative gap.
Ian_ronald_maiden t1_jahetnn wrote
Reply to comment by Paxisstinkt in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
I don’t see how that relates to this.
Ok_Acanthisitta5799 OP t1_jaherbt wrote
Reply to comment by Kesshh in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Interesting. The graph is ordered by the highest %gap. Ethiopia has the highest % gap. But it would be unfair to highlight that considering their pay is well below the world average.
Paxisstinkt t1_jaheokh wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Yes obv. Doesn't change the fact that women chose these jobs by themselves. It's peak femininism, everyone can study what he or she wants.
Edit: If you edit your post substantially please show it.
-So you want to tell women what they should work?
freedom7-4-1776 t1_jahelxh wrote
This doesnt make sence. Why are there only two genders? Also gender is a made up term why put this into an arbitrary category.
Ok_Acanthisitta5799 OP t1_jahelqd wrote
Reply to comment by capybara_from_hell in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
It's not the case, the graph is ordered by %gap. Ethiopia has the highest %gap.
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Ok_Acanthisitta5799 OP t1_jaheico wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
It's the ILO data. They don't cover all geographies. For the ones they cover, some of them don't have enough data vintage. So excluded them.
Ok_Acanthisitta5799 OP t1_jahe9aq wrote
Reply to comment by laufhannes in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
However the ordering is by % gap basis. I did want to suggest that Ethiopia has a big problem, when the earnings irrespective of male or female is extremely low compared to World average.
Ian_ronald_maiden t1_jahe720 wrote
Reply to comment by bromazepam_ in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
The undervaluing of professions dominated by women that are critical to society has knock on effects.
Think_gawd t1_jahe39b wrote
When data presentation = dogshit
urban_thirst t1_jahe2sd wrote
Something has gone wrong with the colours. There's only 3 colours instead of the spectrum the key suggests. 97th rank is the same shade as the 4th rank.
MealMorsels t1_jahe0y6 wrote
Reply to comment by Kesshh in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Yeah, it should be shown as a percentage of the pay instead
bromazepam_ t1_jahdzgu wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Then what's the problem with the gender pay gap? What the person described is perfectly normal and fair
Edit: except the part where women get paid more than men for the same work but that's not "what everyone means" as you've said
Autistom t1_jahdyxd wrote
Reply to comment by Kesshh in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
True, that was not the best argument. But calling this a pay gap is intentionally missleading, since it takes averages over all professions for both genders and then implies that the difference means women get paid less for the same work. The truth is though, that almost all pay gap is due to different carreer prefferences between the genders - to use the most cliche example the technological faculties have majority of men while social faculties have majority of women. Once you count in the prefferences, the pay gap shrinks almost to zero.
statisticalanalysis_ t1_jahduwj wrote
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Is paywalled content banned? (NYT/FT/WSJ/SCMP/TE etc.)
DazedWithCoffee t1_jahdjnn wrote
Reply to [oc] Did I organize Star Wars entire timeline in correct order? Keep in mind technically a viewer can only watch one Film/Show at a time (games excluded) by Likeitisouthere
Stack this up with games next, that’s pretty awesome
Ian_ronald_maiden t1_jahdiqp wrote
Reply to comment by Paxisstinkt in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Perhaps we need to value nurses and teachers, and many other female dominated professions, more highly.
I worry moving all the teachers and nurses into trades will have some knock on effects that might not be so great for the economy in the long run.
Paxisstinkt t1_jahdag3 wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Then we need more women in construction jobs. And women should get less children.
Maybe they don't want that and the statistics show that. So how about making a statistic about certain jobs? Men die earlier, also not shown in the graph
One_Drew_Loose t1_jahczxl wrote
This map/graph is pretty….absurd.
Kesshh t1_jahcx57 wrote
Reply to comment by inorout00 in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
That’s like a completely false simplification. Employment has a large number of factors that affect the supply and demand. Proximity to the work location affects available workers. Skill/experience affects available workers. Need for income affects tolerances in pay gap. Lack of choices affects tolerances in pay gap. Just to name a few.
Ian_ronald_maiden t1_jahcuzi wrote
Reply to comment by Paxisstinkt in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Gender pay gap doesn’t necessarily mean for the same work. It can include that sometimes but that’s not what it means
Paxisstinkt t1_jahcq79 wrote
Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
Because it's bs. It's not allowed by law to pay less for a certain gender for the same work where I live and still the gap is huge.
Paxisstinkt t1_jahf4iw wrote
Reply to Gender pay gap difference in select geographies [OC] by Ok_Acanthisitta5799
This data presentation is utter bs. Like what point are you trying to make?