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rubixor t1_jah6slz wrote

I dont see how this data shows they are overrated... The line representing their success has been pretty flat for the past 30 years compared to other more recently dominant teams... This data presents Norte Dame as a team that demonstrated unprecedented dominance until the early 90's and has had a little bit of success ever since.

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DowntownScore2773 t1_jagzpjy wrote

I didn’t say they cared about the schools. The good thing about numbers that are quantifiable is that they don’t care about opinions. The title of the chart is Which College Football Programs have been the most successful? Most successful at what? Winning? That’s not reflected in the chart. That chart shows what programs have been ranked the highest in the AP poll and it weights the playoff selection over the AP poll where there are conflicts. The AP is associated with the mythical National Championship and there is a reason the BCS relied on other polls as well to select the teams that played in the “championship game.” That was so controversial that it resulted in us finally getting a 4 team playoff which was controversial so we got a larger, fairer playoff. So, either the title of the chart needs to change or the data inputs and weighting needs to change.

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Positive_Benefit8856 t1_jagzbj1 wrote

The flaw in this data is only using the AP poll. This leaves split national title years, 1990, 1991, and 1997 for example awarding 1 team 8 pts, and the other 4, when all of CFB agrees there were 2 rightful claims. Additionally the AP did not include bowl games in their final poll until 1968, this is why so many seasons before then have multiple claims on those championships.

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TargetMost8136 t1_jagx2c6 wrote

Definitely disagree with you on that one. People care a lot more about a 10-2 power 5 team than an 11-1 group of 5 team. There’s definitely bias in the AP25 rankings but it’s a decent measurement imo, definitely compared to wins or conference championships. The latter would show the most dominant team per conference, not necessarily the best college football programs of all time

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