Recent comments in /f/dataisbeautiful

kompootor t1_j9sbuwh wrote

I'm assuming this map is based on a classification model that was fit to the demographics listed for each state, and that you are presenting the solution it gave you without further modification. It would be nice if you would describe the specific classification model and parameters you used, because I worry that some people might assume you just made up a bunch of regions on your own inspection and gave them alt-hist-style names -- they'll be hoping this is still a data sub and not a sci-fi/fantasy/Kevin-Costner-film-trivia sub.

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DoeCommaJohn t1_j9sbaaj wrote

Percent wise, Democrats won Colorado (14%) by more than Texas (5.5%) and Florida (3.3%) combined. Somebody either wanted to draw a map to make Republicans look popular or hasn’t paid attention to results (or more realistically watches a certain news source that hasn’t paid attention to) results in the past decade

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SaggyFrontButt2 t1_j9sb1qj wrote

Keep telling yourself that. I never saw more political violence in my life than in May 2020 when leftists took the streets and burned/looted everything in sight (I live in Chicago)-

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/455553-ocasio-cortez-says-marginalized-communities-have-no-choice-but-to-riot/

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RagingHeretic t1_j9sadab wrote

Russia and China can't even negotiate their own wars of expansion against neighbors. There's no chance they will manage to do it here. "New America" will become a Russian ally on the North American continent...but they have no industry, no education, no public services...just guns. Pacifica, New Canada, and New England all either join Canada proper or join NATO.

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Dandan0005 t1_j9sa8ys wrote

Colorado isn’t even lean anymore, it’s solid.

Boebert almost lost in what was supposed to be an R+7 district, lol.

Oh, and the gdp numbers are bullshit too.

California and Washington alone account for more than 4.3 trillion GDP.

New England gdp is a trillion dollars lower than it should be.

the whole discussion is dumb as bricks and this map is even dumber.

Stop giving her attention.

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RagingHeretic t1_j9s900t wrote

I support the idea of dissolving the U.S. But the GOP's inference to a smaller federal government and blue states still paying the bills for the red ones is a non-starter. We're not doing that. Dissolution of the U.S. is fine as long as us Californians are absolved from having to support parasite states like Texas and Ohio. They want independence, they can figure out how to fund themselves, but the best thing that can happen is a breakup of the country into smaller sovereigns free to govern themselves. No more federalism is something everyone should aim for.

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triarii42069 t1_j9s8l04 wrote

>I do not agree with the idea of dividing up the country, but it's interesting to see the numbers.

You spent significant time and effort creating a map outlining the national divorce, decided to give several recent and historically blue states to the conservative country, made the conservative country "New America", and divided up the resulting liberal countries into four...

And you want us to believe this is some impartial thought experiment?

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terrykrohe OP t1_j9s8jj1 wrote

other comments for "missing persons and drug overdose death rate"
(compared with suicide rate and life expectancy)
1 "compare and contrast"
... the top two plots show random data: missing persons t-test = 0.96; overdose death t-test = 0.46. Note the SD overlaps.
... the bottom two plots show non-random data. Note the smaller t-test p-values.
What is the same about the top two? What is the same about the bottom two?
What is it about the top two that make them different from the bottom two?
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... the curious aspect: the top two are "atypical" because of the greater "random" character of the data.
(Other data sets showing similar atypicality have not been found.)
and the bottom two are "typical" of other non-random, top/bottom, Rep/Dem data sets:
obesity, suicide, infant mortality , accidental deaths, incarceration rate, murder rate, violent crime, etc.
(summary of "typical" metrics posted 14Apr2022)
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– the difference between "random" and "non-random" data is Systemic Bias
– Systemic Bias is either genetic or environmental
– How did 150 million voters separate the fifty states into the two distinct non-random, top/bottom, Rep/Dem groupings which exhibit quantifiable different character?

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electrons-streaming OP t1_j9s89wt wrote

I am pretty surprised at the response. I wonder if data is beautiful folks are offended at the politicization of the sub or if its full of tanky pro Russian people. I think this is right to the heart of how you can use data visualization to drive different agendas using the same data. I have no idea why the NYTimes did it this way, probably just sensationalism, but the Russians push this point to try and support their narrative that the US cannot effectively sanction Russia and therefore Ukraine should just give up.

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triarii42069 t1_j9s85l0 wrote

Stupid proposal and even stupider implementation. Why would the liberal states be divided up and the conservative states stay together? Why would Colorado and Georgia be red if they voted blue in the recent election? Why would you draw the political boundaries by state if you're not keeping the country that those states are tied to?

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terrykrohe OP t1_j9s8334 wrote

sources

missing persons
https://namus.nij.ojp.gov
drug overdose death rate
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html
suicide rate
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm
life expectancy https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm

tool: Mathematica

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– the dashed lines are the means; the 'boxes' are ± one standard deviation (SD) from the mean
– the parenthetical percent is the "relative standard deviation" (RSD)

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