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Accurate_Reporter252 t1_j94hxtt wrote

Meanwhile, do you have any examples of a situation where a group of people brandished guns at police to try and scare them off and it WORKED?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

Hmmm... 1992 LA Riots is an easy one. LAPD totally just bunkered down for a while.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Here's one with a specific Federal involvement.

Those are the easy ones.

"The founders such as in the federalist papers made very clear they were talking about literal militias, to avoid the need for a standing army. Not anything to do with protesting or casual civilian affairs of any such sort. I have no idea where you got that idea from."

They had just finished forcing the British government to leave the country and let them start a new government about 100 years after their ancestors did essentially the same thing and killed a king (before letting a new king back to take over).

I'm pretty sure they didn't think the part of armed overthrow of an overreaching government was necessary to spell out again, especially after the Declaration of Independence and the common understanding of a right to arms at the time... minus the racist efforts at disarming black people and natives.

"I just gave you a source showing that it literally not once has ever failed in all of modern history, worldwide, any form of government, anywhere, with even just a measly 3.5% of the population protesting, or more."

https://www.britannica.com/event/Libya-Revolt-of-2011

Peaceful protests...

...government attacks...

...civil war.

Eventually, they :"won" after a civil war and Qaddafi was gone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war

The Syrian Civil War started with peaceful protests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI060eBm5xM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Syrian_Revolution

Massive protests, government crackdown killing thousands, and then an armed response which is ongoing at this point.

There are others.

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PsychologicalEgg9377 t1_j94589f wrote

This is awful to hear. If it's the same person or group, you might find some pattern based around weekdays, holidays, time of day, etc. Try labeling them based on date/time and see if you can run some summary statistics. If it's kids, it might increase during holidays. If it's someone jobless, there may be no pattern. This is all speculation, but it's a starting point.

Machine learning might be able to offer some insights as well, but that might be too steep a learning curve.

Good luck in finding them

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DAVES-MOM t1_j944801 wrote

Looks good! One note: You should exclude the ingredients they assume you have (at a minimum). All recipes call for salt pepper butter and cooking oil, so they will screw your results and keep you from more valuable takeaways. Recommend a separate call out on the top essentials as a list or mentioned on a description of the chart. Keep up the good work!

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Good_Sage t1_j943ql3 wrote

Thanks! I will take a look at that. So I am assuming there are no particular website that can do all the plotting and you would have to program that? I am good at programming but definitely not at the high level. This might as well be a long procrastinated project for me when I get some free time. If there are some more libraries (because there seem to be alot of cool graphs in this subreddit) please do let me know!

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PsychologicalEgg9377 t1_j943mp3 wrote

It's not a very satisfying answer, but Excel might be your best bet. You likely already have it on your work computer and there are tons of resources for creative ideas. You can download tons of data already in a spreadsheet usable form (csv mostly). Most services will either have a steep learning curve, or be too basic to be useful.

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PsychologicalEgg9377 t1_j942krp wrote

I'm from an academic background and used to use a lot of R. There's a library called ggplot2 that is very formal and structured. Many other plotting libraries and methods are very disjoint, but ggplot2 gives you a good foundation because it's based on a lot of plotting theory. It depends if you program or not.

I found this PDF on datacamp that is very high level. I'm not sure I agree with all of them, but it's probably a good start.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.datacamp.com/email/other/Data+Visualizations+-+DataCamp.pdf

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PsychologicalEgg9377 t1_j941tlq wrote

I created an interactive plot written in javascript and plotly that I'd like to post here. I have it hosted on a server. Is it possible to embed as an iframe or similar? Or will I have to just post a hyperlink?

I generally don't click off-site links when scrolling reddit, so I suspect others have the same habit.

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crimeo t1_j941e1x wrote

> You should read about

I know about those topics already. What you think they have to do with the conversation, though, I am not sure. You need to outline that yourself, I'm not going to guess your whole argument for you, if any.

> nonviolent protests last only to the tolerance of the government.

I just gave you a source showing that it literally not once has ever failed in all of modern history, worldwide, any form of government, anywhere, with even just a measly 3.5% of the population protesting, or more.

No. It's not "at the tolerance of" anything. It ALWAYS works. Governments can't do shit. Or else some of them would have. None of them have. None.

So... wrong. And already cited as wrong...

> Once more, the whole idea behind the American Second Amendment is the deterrence of needing violence again and the creation and maintenance of a government who would prefer nonviolent protesting to the application of violence.

The founders such as in the federalist papers made very clear they were talking about literal militias, to avoid the need for a standing army. Not anything to do with protesting or casual civilian affairs of any such sort. I have no idea where you got that idea from.

The fixation on individual gun ownership as a private one person or family unit matter began in the 1960s as a re-conceptualization of the amendment by the Black Panthers to give them an edge over the cops they were beefing with who didn't expect to see them walking around with shotguns on the street observing. Yes, their conceptualization is similar to yours. Which was then adopted by other groups like the NRA (which before that was totally into gun control). But that began in the 1960s. Not 1860s, not 1760s. Not Jefferson or Hamilton or Madison, etc...

> So, so far, the insurance mostly works. I mean, except for (1960s examples)

Uh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Washington,_D.C.,_attack_and_hostage_taking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Freemen

https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/04/us/separatists-end-texas-standoff-as-5-surrender.html

Meanwhile, do you have any examples of a situation where a group of people brandished guns at police to try and scare them off and it WORKED?

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Accurate_Reporter252 t1_j93z9fr wrote

Revolutions are violent. Most definitely, violence tends to promote violence.

Totally.

Also, you should read about Arab Summer.

Also, you should read about the history of the American South with regards to civil rights restrictions and the like.

Also, you should check out the history of "nonviolent protests" in China and the former Soviet Union, and a lot of other places because--again--nonviolent protests last only to the tolerance of the government.

Once more, the whole idea behind the American Second Amendment is the deterrence of needing violence again and the creation and maintenance of a government who would prefer nonviolent protesting to the application of violence.

The idea is to create a government who understands going to war against it's own constituents--unlike the Soviets, the Chinese Communist, the Cubans, the Libyans, etc., etc. etc.--is likely to cause them problems too. So, in the American scheme, government continues to listen instead of rounding people they don't like up into camps or reservations or whatnot (again) or tolerating the local governments beating people down and/or allowing them to be freely lynched (anymore) without a lot of risk to themselves.

So, so far, the insurance mostly works.

I mean, except black people getting machinegunned in the 1960's, and Kent State, of course, and probably the Democratic Convention riots in the 1960's.

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