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sockowl t1_j93c1cp wrote

I would love something that compared the cost of these kits to the cost of buying the ingredients at the store, haha. The only times I've used these kits is when I can get a good deal because holy cow are they ever pricey!

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anonkitty2 t1_j93b4rs wrote

Yes, but I missed the legend the first time. They place it well above the pretty picture. It's an interactive chart, it turns out -- individual data points can be identified by clicking on a point. Edit: I checked again. The original chart has a grid. The x-axis is the year the film was released. (They also color-code the points by decade.). The y-axis is how much money it made. Neither set of indexes is visible on this Reddit page, and neither are the grid lines.

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crimeo t1_j933xqe wrote

Your statement is wrong and has been for decades. It can definitely respond to brand new stimuli it's never seen before. You seriously think the ChatGPT guys "preprogrammed" the answer to "Give me the recipe for a cake but in Shakespearean iambic pentameter"? Lol? There are also tons of AI systems that for example take any painting you give them and make it look like Van Gogh. The programmers never saw your painting before...

If you want to argue subjectively about the term intelligence, fine, but "preprogrammed responses" as well as "predetermined stimuli" are both objectively wildly incorrect.

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crimeo t1_j933gfk wrote

New prize for the most ridiculously misleading visualization I've seen on the sub so far.

Literally just a 5 point line graph, and you still managed to absolutely butcher it by using Willy Wonka's Wacky Y Axis where there are no rules and the numbers don't matter.

And boring even if was done correctly.

And ugly.

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crimeo t1_j932gyn wrote

What part of "I literally cannot reply further because of reddit, take it to DMs please" was confusing?

But fine, we can do it here:

Continuing from https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/113twme/oc_gun_homicide_rate_vs_gun_ownership_rate_in_the/j930nge/

/u/accurate_reporter252


> Nonviolent protest is highly effective up to the point the government isn't willing to directly or indirectly use violence on people.

Ftfy. Non violent protest has NEVER failed in modern history if you have just 3.5% of the population involved. That includes communist states, dictators, warlord states, you name it, whatever:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

> You play peace until it doesn't work, then you go to war. and it literally always works if any significant number of supporters are on board and actually care about your cause

Ftfy too, same link just above.

> That's insurance to try and keep the American government from using violence against non-violent protests.

Which doesn't work and you should ask for a refund from your insurer, because shooting back always merely escalates and leads to way more violence. See first link above.

Even if you hypothetically win an entire revolution as a result, and don't end up as (far more likely) the next waco TX, it STILL failed to be "insurance against violence" since you instead massively increased violence.

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Accurate_Reporter252 t1_j930nge wrote

Accurate reporter 252 is assuming less deaths than what typically happens when governments have a unilateral access to use of force, especially when outside agencies--like the US and possibly NATO or the UN--are willing to put boots on the ground to stop massive killing by government.

So, Bosnia... that was interfered with (late in the game) by NATO.

Most of the sub-Saharan African "culls" of citizens like Rwanda played themselves out without much outside interference.

The Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, and others killed millions after disarming their countrymen.

As far as nonviolent protest...

Nonviolent protest is highly effective up to the point the government isn't willing to directly or indirectly use violence on people.

So, Chinese nonviolent protests haven't worked out for a long time. Likewise, Southern US efforts to stop Jim Crow didn't work for about a century until the rest of the country started seeing dead black men hung from trees in the news more often and made it a national issue instead of the state levels.

Until then, "nonviolent" protests by black people against being kept out of the ballot boxes usually resulted in a whole lot of violence done to them.

You should read a bit about the "Arab Summer" as well.

You play peace until it doesn't work, then you go to war.

Oh, and the Second Amendment?

That's insurance to try and keep the American government from using violence against non-violent protests. It's there to make the cost of violence against the people high enough to keep the government listening to non-violent complaints...

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Accurate_Reporter252 t1_j92yw9z wrote

TLDR: Banning guns sounds easy, but you can't enforce it without trashing the other rights.

So, you ban guns.

There are over 400 million in circulation. These guns can last (effectively) over 100 years and people can make and do make them at home.

They also share how to make them with each other and that's protected under the 1st Amendment.

So, are you just going to leave 400 million guns out there with over 1/3 of the population who don't particularly care about gun laws?

No, you're going to have to go get them.

And then you're going to want to prosecute these people.

So, first you have to stop them from sharing information about guns, how to avoid getting caught, how to make guns, and how to hide them plus how to organize a resistance--violent or political--and that means chucking the right to free speech and privacy.

You're going to have to go into these people's homes and places of business to collect these guns.

There's no way in hell you're getting past all of the judges requiring definitive evidence to grant a warrant. There goes warrantless searches.

Oh, and once you have these people in hand, putting them in front of a jury to convict them when the odds are a good chunk of the jury isn't going to find them guilty is a massive waste of time, effort, and good will.

Beyond the fact you need at least 6 jurors typically and trying 100 million people for possession would require either career jury members or about 600 million people in a country with less than half of that in adults and--without knowing who is who--you're at risk of massive jury nullification.

Oh, and by convicting 1/3 of the population, who's going to grow the food and pay the taxes for the massive amount of new prisons?

You're probably going to need to bring back slavery to allow you to force them to grow food while in prison.

Finally, you can't take any new votes.

Once you piss off and alienate that many people, you're going to have an uphill battle every step of the way after that and it puts so many political hijinks on deck for the rest of the country's existence.

Imagine just losing enough of an election once to have people try to overturn such a policy?

Even if you stepped in militarily again, you start looking like Liberia in modern times: All the trappings of a good government and coup after coup with mock elections.

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