With warmer weather approaching, try yard sales. By the end of the day, some people are willing to give stuff away for free, rather than haul it to the dump or back into the house. Or go bright & early when the yard sale starts, to get the picks you want.

So what's the reasonable explanation for wizards and dragons?

Are movies books?
I'm not trying to sound glib. I can agree that the sentiment that "the story is what's important." I just haven't heard anybody argue that even the most faithful movie adaptation is similar to reading the book.

Well, to be fair, it wasn't meant to present these people as admirable or something to aspire to. Pretty much the exact opposite. It shows the foolishness, selfishness, and destruction that these people leave in their wake.

Nick, the narrator, is basically the only decent one, as he becomes disgusted with the morals of rich people and leaves New York at the end.

You can wait until the FAQ topic is posted again. If my math is correct, it should be in about two months.

As far as separate communities, you are welcome to check out /r/audiobooks.

Let us know if you have any other questions.

They believe it is wrong to steal the eggs of the hens.

Me I just make sure the hens are not looking since some do get upset that someone is stealing their eggs. Since they can not count and do not have the sort of memory to keep track of such it's fine and causes no distress to sneak as many eggs as you want. But if they see you taking them it causes distress in some hens who are making some sort of connection.

I never even implied that listening to an audiobook is in any way inferior to reading a book. I have listened to a few audiobooks and enjoyed them. But reading those same books was a different experience.

And your entire paragraph about the narration enhancing the certain books (the same way watching a play might) only goes to prove the point I was making.

Any joy you had that was squelched has far more to do with your projections than anything I actually said.

Only seen it ten times so far!

Amazing thanks!

Chicken sentience: a bold and audacious claim I am behind.

Most te reo speakers today will pronounce it like this, which is pretty close to how you're spelling it out! https://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=ngaio

But the 'ng' at the start can really vary across the country, with different iwi pronouncing the consonant differently: Lake Wanaka in south island comes from the māori word "wananga" (wisdom), as Ngāti Tahu pronounce the 'ng' more like a "k" than a "n".

I could not care less what the message of the book is. Fiction writers are first and foremost crafters and artists of language, not social commentators. Anywho, Fitzgerald's prose flows quite nicely.

Can't wait!

"Listening to an audiobook isn't even close to the same experience as reading a book. "

Studies suggest basically the same regions of the brain are activated during conventional reading and listening to an audiobook. Retention of information is also pretty comparable.

"I don't say this in judgment of those who listen to audiobooks. "

No, you just say it in ignorance and condescension which is so much better.

"I'm glad you've found something you enjoy."

I'm glad you feel the pompous need to try to squelch that joy in others.

"When people are talking about how great or terrible the audiobook is, I often find that it has no relation at all to the experience of reading the book. "

Maybe it has no relation to you, but for other people it might. I find I become more aware of the rhythm and sound and general lyricism of stories when listening to an audiobook compared to conventional reading. Alliteration, consonance, assonance, etc. all are more noticeable to me when I listen to an audiobook than when I read a conventional book. The first stories were meant to be listened to, not read. So audiobooks put us back in touch with the ancient roots of storytelling.

"Many times, they even admit that the narration is a large reason for their enjoyment."

It's part of the enjoyment but not the only enjoyment. Plot, characterization, setting, theme, prose, etc. are all also factors in people's enjoyment. A narrator might enhance a person's enjoyment of a story the same as seeing Othello performed might increase someone's enjoyment of reading the script. Narrators can sometimes add an extra flair or flavor to the book or help people hear the story told in an authentic accent. Sometimes too an audiobook allows readers to experience the story as read by the author. That is pretty cool for a lot of people.

"Listeners of audiobooks also probably get a little annoyed when people are talking about books that don't have an audiobook version. "

Many people who listen to audiobooks also read print and/or ebooks. Some people like myself even have Kindle or print versions of books as well as owning the audiobook. Even those who listen to audiobooks exclusively will just find something else to listen to.

"Or worse, a great book everyone who reads is fawning over, only to find that the audiobook has a terrible narrator."

That's why I listen to samples on Audible and only get audiobooks with good narrators. Books with narrators that don't appeal to me, I will just read in another format (print, ebook, etc).

It's easy to take advantage of all the different reading formats available to me in the twenty-first century.

Just finished J R. Glad to see this here

Print books are rather newfangled. The printing press wasn’t even invented until 1450. The first stories, including scripture, were told, not printed. And even stories that were written out by hand had limited reach. But just about every village had someone to relate histories and folktales. Now, as then, the storyteller (narrator) can enhance or detract from the experience.

Most audiobook listeners will also read print and electronic media if they don’t have issues with vision. I’m flexible.

Happy to share! Quick question: is it pronounced Nigh-yo? That's what I've been saying in my head lol

I actually did both of those things and didn't see any discussions about why or if they should be separated into separate communities.

And even if there were, as long as it wasn't last week, there is a benefit to further discussion.

Its a style of writing that's not everyone's cup of tea. The short chapters are meant to keep the narrative flowing and be a book that you can keep picking up. I believe Rothfuss said he starts his novels with a detailed outline, so it seems his writing process is expanding his outline into scenes, combining those scenes into chapters, and then connecting them to the overall narrative.

Personally I love the way its structured.

I can't tell from this post if you have ever actually listened to one or not. More than one, preferably, before you make some sort of judgment on the entire format.

As someone who never felt the need to try audiobooks then got a job driving for hours every day...audiobooks are definitely comparable to reading, in that - once you adjust to them (and of course, there will be people who just can't get used to them) - the story goes into your brain, just as it would from a book. I often would listen in the car and then get home and continue reading on paper (or ebook). Once I finished the book, I could not tell you which parts I listened to and which I read with my eyeballs.

Is it a slightly different interpretation? Maybe, but my interpretation of any story, however I receive it, will be different from yours. It can even be different depending on what mood I'm in, how old I am, whether I've seen a movie adaptation first, or heard it talked about.

Was I influenced by the narrator when it comes to inflections or emotions? Maybe. But that doesn't mean the narrator's interpretation was wrong, or that it was different from what I would have come up with myself. And I've even disagreed with the reading of a line or scene - which means I'm still absorbing the story and coming to my own conclusions.

Reading a book is receiving a story (or non-fiction) from the author. Reading fiction is storytelling from one person to another, with a system that allows for many, many people to receive it rather than having to be told face-to-face - the original form of storytelling was verbal.

Listening to a story may be slightly different, but it's no less valid. A person who has listened to a book has every right to discuss the contents/message they found in it with people who read the book with their eyes. There is already a sub for audiobooks - mostly people use it to discuss narrators, versions, delivery methods, etc.

If people want to discuss a book, this sub should welcome them no matter how the contents were uploaded into their brains.

i loved it! do yourself a favor and read the other 2 books in the trilogy!

2 novels and a novella

Yes, his short stories are fantastic

In my opinion, a book is a book, no matter the medium. Paper pages, Kindle or similar, app on phone, audiobook, they all have their place in telling a story, and the method of delivering that story is subject to the consumer’s needs at that moment.

Arthritic hands? Kindle or other electronic reader. Unexpected delay at the bank? Open the app on your phone. Cross-country road trip? Audiobook through the car’s speakers.

There are times an audiobook can enhance the story. I’m specifically referring to Wier’s “Project Hail Mary,” in which the secondary character’s speech patterns are interpreted audibly by the narrator and sound effects.

The best thing about free speech is that we can all have an opinion. Yours is that audiobooks have no place in a book subreddit. Mine is that the story is what’s important and therefore audiobooks have a place here.

I'm not saying they're not identical. I'm saying they're not even similar.

Because I use the library as my primary source for books, what is available usually dictates what I read next. This year one of my goals is to read the last of the 20 or so books that moved with me 3 years ago, I have 2 slots per month for those and I don't put much thought into which one to read next.