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[deleted] t1_jcl884p wrote

Wuthering Heights.

The atmosphere was wonderful (gothic!), and I was keen on learning how the characters would change and grow over time.

They didn't. By the end, Catherine was still an insufferable child, but in adult form, and so was Heathcliff. But he tacked on 'abusive monster' to his roster of unlovable traits. It felt like I had nobody to root for until the last quarter or less of the story.

That is a long time to wait to have a character who didn't create their own misery, blame everyone else for it, and hurt everyone around them. And that be simply who they were.

(Edit: to clarify, Heathcliff had a raw deal in his early life and was mistreated by people while he grew up. He was primed to be a character you could empathize with. But he was so mean, so cruel, so deliberately monstrous that it overcame how sorry I felt for him, and the grace I might have given him.)

I finished the book and it took me a good few seconds to talk myself out of forcefully throwing it into the trash.

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[deleted] t1_jcl6ko8 wrote

I actually think it's worse than that because there are other examples of werewolves imprinting on children like Quil Ateara V and while it is said that they will wait until their respective imprintee is old enough to consent to their relationship, SM heavily implied that they're destined to be drawn to the mothers of those respective children to explain Jacob's initial crush on Bella.

Ironically enough, I remember reading an amateur vampire erotica some years ago by an author named Yvonne Ray and there was something similar that happened between a 13-year-old pureborn vampire, Victoria Sinclaire (who was the youngest daughter of the protagonist Ethan Sinclaire) and his best friend, Mason's adopted vampire son, Jamie, who was around 19-years-old.

While I was initially squicked out by it, it was stated in text that Jamie was cognizant of his bond with Victoria and knew from the jump that it would be decades before either would be mature enough to make any decisions regarding their bond or even if they would choose to act on it. By later chapters, it was all but stated that Victoria could hear Jamie's thoughts due to her already advanced telepathy and had grown a crush on him which hinted that their bond was already developing.

An example of this trope done much better if you ask me.

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CrazyCatLady108 t1_jcl6ej6 wrote

you are conflating two things. a book being not well written and how much someone enjoyed the book are separate things.

let me use food to demonstrate. say you really like strawberries. your mother makes you a strawberry cake. it is raw in the middle and burnt on the edges, but your mom made it and you love strawberries, so you eat it and you like it. someone comes by and says "that cake has poor grasp of structure and lacks the nuance to be called cake" and you tell them "shut up, i like it. i am the target audience."

back to books. people can have a reason to like something that is, in your opinion, poorly written because it has something else that makes them enjoy it. and your insistence on something being poorly written is not concrete objective criticism. sure, sometimes the steak is raw but some people prefer it that way. (mixing up my food metaphors here)

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ElvenAngerTherapist t1_jcl45ey wrote

I read the novelization of the Red Riding Hood movie and the book ended abruptly with a page telling you that if you wanted to know how it actually ends you have to watch the movie or go to the website after the movie is released to read it. There was no warning that the book would do this and I was so annoyed that I literally threw the book and promised myself I would never watch the movie. I was so offended lol

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vivahermione t1_jcl16ey wrote

There is Confusion by Jessie Redmon Fauset. Originally, I was so excited to read a forgotten classic of the Harlem Renaissance, but at the end, >!Peter told his ambitious fiancé, Joanna, that she'd have to give up her stage career to stay home and raise children. She basically shrugged her shoulders and said, "OK". And this was after she spent years overcoming the prejudices inherent in the theater business at that time!<. I would've thrown the book across the room, but that would've meant destroying my Kindle, and it wasn't worth that.

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thebeautifullynormal t1_jckyv8w wrote

Imprinting generally is when a baby takes on someone as their parent figure. (Ducks are popular for imprinting on humans or other animals).

In the case of twilight it was used as an excuse for a grown man to fall in love with a baby. What's worse is that it is insinuated that they do get together and have children eventually.

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UnfallenAdventure OP t1_jckym1p wrote

Sorry, I didn’t mean for it to be a hate thread. I’m in the process of writing my first book, and I wanted to see what to look out for. So it’s not for karma or anything- I have plenty of that. And it’s not for upvotes. I just want to hear what gets on people’s nerves when reading.

Do you have a book that follows the question?

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