Recent comments in /f/books

lucyjayne t1_jad3gky wrote

I haven't read it, but listened to a lot of podcasts talking about the book. They all stated that Michelle pretty much solved the case, which I just took at face value because I had no interest in reading it. So, that's not true apparently! Well, now I know and feel silly for believing them.

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brycebaril t1_jad2yat wrote

Used bookstores are already full of books nobody is reading. People choose to read things because of a shared human interest, and we've a hard enough time finding shared human interest with humans from the recent past--it's unlikely we're going to care about a bunch of new content when we're already ignoring the majority of existing content.

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Character_Vapor t1_jad2j63 wrote

>Artificial Intelligence is a thing now.

No, it isn't. Chatbots are not AI, at least according to the traditional definition. They're clumsy plagiarism machines that are efficient at trawling the internet. That's it. There does not exist an artificially created intelligence that "thinks".

Ted Chiang has a great piece about this that everyone needs to read, because the discourse and understanding around this stuff has been absolutely abysmal lately.

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gonnaregretasking t1_jad2ae2 wrote

AI has been able to write stories for a long time now, like almost 15 years. This is not new. Those conversations have been around, but it just became popular topic to talk about. Give it couple months, people will end playing with new and shiny ChatGPD or whatever it's called, and move on to the next thing.

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gnatsaredancing t1_jad2912 wrote

>I know of businesses that have laid off their entire marketing teams and replaced them with ChatGPT.

ChatGTP produces very bland marketing texts. They'll either regret firing their marketing teams or those marketing teams couldn't even market their own worth.

>I've seen several instances of small presses being flooded with AI-generated content by people looking to make a quick buck, to the point of closing down submissions and making life harder for actual writers.

Every technological development has transitional periods like that. Every new web tech has a temporary thread of amateurs using this tool or that to make subpar development products that don't last long.

>There was even a post here not so long ago from a guy who self-published a book of poetry that was admittedly generated by ChatGPI, but he still claimed to be a writer.

Etsy is full of people making "art" out of throwing junk together. People claiming to be artists despite having no art is something that goes back to the dawn of our species.

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gnatsaredancing t1_jad1qkj wrote

They're tools. ChatGTP can already write very complex things. But complex is not synonymous with good.

Most of these tools will replace people who had little to offer in the first place and be used by people who have a clear idea of their own added value and how to use tools to their best effect.

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sisharil t1_jad1gs5 wrote

I think AI could maybe replace trashy fiction which is already just formulaic nonsense for a cash grab, but I suspect it would never actually replace proper novels.

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EricDiazDotd t1_jad1ajr wrote

Yes, it is inevitable.

But it might take 10 years to replace 90% of the writers, and another decade to replace 99%.

Most writers will be AI-assisted soon, however.

I wish we didn't have to face this, but here we are (I'm an amateur writer myself and thinking of this ruins my motivation sometimes, TBH).

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Catsandscotch t1_jad12j0 wrote

Curled into the corner of my couch, one arm on the armrest, cat behind my knees. I use one of those triangle shaped pillows that is sold as a tablet stand. Works both when I read from Kindle on my ipad and for hardbacks books or paperback books. For physical books, I just usually rest my fingers at the bottom of the page to keep pages from flipping.

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TamusSenHadar t1_jad0xrx wrote

AI has been able to write relatively complex stories for a while now. I remember reading about an AI-generated story winning a writing contest around 2015 or 2016, and I'm sure it had impressive capabilites even before that. Personally, I'm not overly worried. I think AI will have applications in the writing process, certainly, but it will still be a tool for writers, rather than something that replaces them completely. In general, I think that ought to be true for AI's relationship with humanity in general, provided we regulate the technology well and adjust our economic structure according to the new reality it brings--though that might be asking a lot from us, now that I think about it.

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ana-nother-thing t1_jad0s7x wrote

I have bad pain in my hands so I usually sit with a pillow on my lap and the book resting on the pillow. Then you can hold the book in place with minimal effort. For heavier books I use my kindle, you can also get a basic phone/tablet stand and be even more hands free.

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jackfaire t1_jad0nya wrote

No but I think that it would be a way to get more specific fan fiction. I can look for fan fic and I'd still prefer human written stuff but if I'm looking for a specific idea and no one's written it I wouldn't mind telling an AI program to do so.

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WhenRobLoweRobsLowes t1_jad0hzf wrote

AI-generated anything is a plague.

I know of businesses that have laid off their entire marketing teams and replaced them with ChatGPT. I've seen several instances of small presses being flooded with AI-generated content by people looking to make a quick buck, to the point of closing down submissions and making life harder for actual writers. There was even a post here not so long ago from a guy who self-published a book of poetry that was admittedly generated by ChatGPI, but he still claimed to be a writer.

I don't want to wander into the realm of the intersection of art and the human experience, but a program will never be able to generate a work with fresh depth and creative complexity. All it can do is regurgitate whatever it can access. It may be able to pull parts together, but it will never innovate or "create."

So it could probably churn out a few dozen James Patterson books in a week, but real writing ain't gonna happen on the back of a program.

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