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lucia-pacciola t1_ja8jywe wrote

It helps when authors don't promise a complete series, with a predetermined finite number of books, and a promise of closure to a specific story arc.

Neuromancer was a standalone story when it first got published. Were there readers out there wanting more, when they got to the end of the book? Yes. Did anyone avoid reading it because there wasn't yet more? Of course not. William Gibson has followed the same pattern for every series he's written.

When Pattern Recognition and The Peripheral were first published, there was no promise that any further stories would follow. But people read them anyway, because they were complete stories already. All Gibson had to do was return to the setting and build new stories there, whenever he wanted. Revelation Space books sell just fine, because each one is a complete story in the setting.

Meanwhile, ongoing serial fiction thrives by never promising any kind of overarching narrative closure. Nobody avoided reading the first few Jack Reacher books because there was no end in sight to the series. Nobody skipped Charles Stross's Laundry Files because they knew there were more books coming.

Martin and Rothfuss made the mistake of promising a complete story, and then releasing it piecemeal. Tolkien actually wrote a complete story, and then publisher released it three volumes. Dan Simmons' Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion were both released the same year.

The moral is this: If you haven't written your ending, don't publish the beginning with a promise of closure. Just write each book as a complete story in itself, and build on what you've already written as you go.

And whatever you do, don't start writing Zeno's Closure, like Rothfuss did, where each successive episode makes half as much progress towards the conclusion as the previous episode.

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Eleflan t1_ja8jkyl wrote

Has anyone ever said they regretted reading asoiaf? I certainly am glad to have read it.

That said I get my books from the library these days so I'm not really supporting authors anyways and with such a backlog I only ever get around to reading series once they are finished usually.

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Itavan t1_ja8jimm wrote

I sometimes only read 1-2 pages of a book and give up. Sometimes the way a writer writes grates on my brain. I can’t put my finger on what it might be, but I read for enjoyment, so feel no qualms quitting.

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DrBoots t1_ja8jdvb wrote

The first 3 Horus Heresy books are an amazing read. After that the HH series has it's peaks and valleys but never 100% meets the highest points of that first arc.

That being said if you liked Horus Heresy and are looking to get into more of the post heresy setting. I really enjoyed the Gaunt's Ghosts, and Ravenor books.

Not for nothing, but the Caiaphas Cain books are a lot of fun as well. Probably the closest Warhammer 40K gets to being an intentional comedy.

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CaroqHail t1_ja8jci9 wrote

I’ve got this problem and I find that once I get on a roll with reading, I can maintain that voracity. One thing that helps me is to wear reading glasses. I’ve got 20/20 eyesight but I think the magnification helps to sort of harness my eyes to only look at the book.

Edited to add: “listening” to white noise on headphones is also helpful for me to focus on reading.

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ActiveAnimals t1_ja8j1s4 wrote

I love audiobooks, but I definitely wouldn’t be able to focus on one while driving. (Tried it a few times. It’s nope.)

I can only listen when I’m doing something that requires absolutely no focus, so either nothing at all, folding laundry, or while I’m eating.

As a person who’s not good at auditory processing in general, it was definitely harder in the beginning, but got a bit easier with practice. (But still, no listening and driving!)

It takes longer than just reading a written book, but often my eyes hurt too much, so the ears will have to take over. If I find myself zoning out, I rewind immediately. I don’t wait until I’m completely lost. If I zone out a lot, I stop listening and wait a few days until I’m in a more focused frame of mind.

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Strappwn t1_ja8izin wrote

I’m the same as you, it’s hard to invest myself in something that might never conclude. I also forget a ton of shit if I have to wait 5+ years between books.

My only exception if the series isn’t finished but the author has very consistent output, ex: every 2-3 years we get a book. That said, I might have to abandon this rule because I was knee deep in an unfinished sci fi series and, even though the author was very consistent in releasing books, he tragically passed away.

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Secthelock t1_ja8ikur wrote

I'm with you, in fact I stopped reading altogether because I got so disgusted by the unfinished last few series I picked up, all those you named and some more, series that got a new one so much later that honestly I couldn't remember any of it, and so on. I even had to put Sanderson's aside, even though he's a quick writer and has yet - to my knowledge - to drop the ball. I wasn't enjoying it anymore.

I'm looking to delve into new genres to rekindle my love for reading, but for now, I'm just dulling my brain with simple youtube videos on gaming speedruns at night. Not even joking.

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Valyrian_Kobolds t1_ja8ieb0 wrote

The guy who actively apologizes for his shortcomings in portrayals of people who are basically never portrayed turning out to be awful would be the shock of a lifetime to me.

Shout out to the king of the Reshi people

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LittelFoxicorn t1_ja8i9xq wrote

Actually yes, it does affect authors and publishers. I know as an author and newly started publisher that people actually not starting some series because they wait till all the books are finished to buy results in several new trends:

  1. not publishing new and unfinished series

  2. Not buying translation rights because some big publishers pull series after sales if the second edition are much lower than the first, even if it is because the "I will buy the rest when the all come out" effect, actually fueling more people to not buy series

  3. Rapid publishing, putting out a new book of a series every couple of months, because they have bought the finished series. Creating unrealistic expectations with readers who then wonder why their "author" has not published something for "so long" because other work only gets picked up after the whole lot is written, which can take years, by whitch point the author is manly forgotten and might not get picked up again. Unless offcoarse it was an extreme succes.

But yes, it has changed a lot.

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mist3rdragon t1_ja8i6rd wrote

You sure the person you're you read saying Stormlight was a complete trilogy wasn't talking about Mistborn?

And I wouldn't worry about the progression of Stormlight as a series because the fifth book that's currently being written is going to be a finale before a time skip anyway.

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