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trombone_womp_womp t1_ja8fucf wrote

The series will never be complete, if you need the proper book ending.

We know the ending based on what the show had, because GRRM gave them the overall story beats in order to complete the show. It was terribly executed, but it gave us the high level ending.

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lowlandr t1_ja8f4sw wrote

I started reading Wheel of Time in 1990 and waited book by book for...19 years? By then there was no way that the ending could have ever met my expectations.

Fuck GRRM.

I still have a soft spot for Rothfuss because of some of the charity work he has done with Hefer Int etc, and it was not a 20 book series but dang...

I started reading a series by another author JV Jones who vanished after a couple of books...

Plenty of books out there but I hear ya.

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ohboop t1_ja8f16b wrote

In my opinion, a huge theme in the novel is self acceptance and love, as a woman. Throughout the novel Jane is at odds with her own and other's values of femininity. Both Rochester and St. John encourage her and find value in her for things she also values in herself, but from very different perspectives. Ultimately, St. John is very utilitarian in his love for Jane. His first devotion is to God, and he loves Jane for her potential to serve God first and foremost. It's important that Jane is also religious, and not at all opposed to a life of service, even to God, but she wants a partner that loves her first and foremost.

In general I think your whole characterization is uncharitable, to say the least. I didn't find any part of the novel wordy, tedious, or padded. I loved the writing, so to see your comment about a thesaurus was another surprise. Idk, seems like this novel wasn't for you, but when I read it, it was obvious to me why it's stood the test of time.

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trombone_womp_womp t1_ja8er6i wrote

Just curious how long ago you read ASOIAF? I haven't touched it since I finished ADWD in 2011/2012, and as a result I've basically forgotten that I used to be upset about it. The show just made me laugh at its terrible final two seasons.

I only hold the fond memories of just how amazing the books were when I read them all between 2009-2011. I've never quite experienced the same feeling since, although I just finished book 2 of Malazan and honestly it might win out in the end (I'm surprised there isn't more talk online of this series).

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PunkandCannonballer t1_ja8en79 wrote

I think avoiding an unfinished series is a bit of a slap to the face to the author. I love supporting creators that make things I love, whether it's finished or not. It also seems like a terrible thing to judge or condemn authors for not finishing their works while not even giving series a shot until it's finished, which can literally take decades.

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sumare77 t1_ja8emuy wrote

This is tricky.

If nobody reads an ongoing series, it will die out before it's finished.

On the other hand, I haven't read ASOIAF and Kingkiller because there's no expectation for them to be finished. But these are very specific cases.

The majority of the book series actually are concluded, eventually.

So, if I get good recommendations for an ongoing series, I'll try to read it. But if it's a recommendation for a dead series, I'll pass.

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literattina t1_ja8ekn6 wrote

I totally agree with you! It’s not a literary masterpiece by any means, but for me it was a really enjoyable read and I couldn’t put it down at all. The story really takes you in and even if Evelyn is not relatable, she’s definitely an interesting character. Also, with all her brutal honesty about herself, bad sides and all, I don’t think she was meant to be relatable at all.

Evelyn got me started with T.J.R., but Malibu Rising has my heart, so maybe check that one out too?

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HellStoneBats t1_ja8eiw8 wrote

My dear, you clearly didn't grow up in the era of fanfiction. Sometimes stories that you follow for literally decades and millions of words just don’t finish. That's okay, it let's you finish the story yourself. And you always have the option of going back and starting again.

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SLPeaches t1_ja8ehvi wrote

No, and honestly I find people who choose not to read unfinished series kinda ridiculous. One as many people have mentioned, not reading an unfinished series actually makes it less likely to be finished. Two i hardly if ever just burn through a series, I'll enjoy one or two books and then read something else to avoid burning out on a series.

Three, most series including 95 percent of popular ones, get finished within reasonable schedules you're actually an outlier if you have crazy time between books. You getting burned by two series that are famously unfinished and constantly memed upon as works that will never get finished is not the same as waiting like two years for the final book in a trilogy; especially with how many authors now keep fans pretty well updated with their progress via socials.

Also modern series are now airing on the side of shorter for the most part ,duologies and trilogies, with the first books often being very satisfying in their own complete narrative arcs. Plus you don't get to participate in book discussions in the same way once a series is complete with communities having fan theories, art that's constantly being updated and just sharing questions you have with the larger community. They hype of waiting on a final release for a highly anticipated series is just a very different experience imo.

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Keffpie t1_ja8dt7o wrote

It's a slightly different skill to reading, and you just need practice. I suggest books where it won't hurt your enjoyment too much if your mind wanders a bit to start out with. Eventually you'll get just as good at "reading" with your ears as with your eyes, and you'll be able to listen to audio-books while doing chores or even shopping. I swap between listening and reading on a kindle, and if you held a gun to my head I wouldn't be able to tell you which parts I read and which parts I listened to.

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