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142Ironmanagain t1_ja5ac33 wrote

Only read Mitchell’s first 4 books (Ghost, #9, Black Swan & Cloud) and Ghostwritten was by far my favorite as well! Cloud Atlas gets all the buzz, with the movie tie-in too (didn’t see it), but he really nailed with his first novel. About to start Bone Clocks too

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chortlingabacus t1_ja58ywn wrote

When I was charitably giving The Great Gatsby another chance I got up from the chair in the middle of one or another conversation in it to go do something more gratifying and when I did my knee hurt a terrific lot. And I began to feel a migraine whilst re-reading Vanity Fair. That's a seriously weird concidence, given that all the characters in the novel have heads.

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tigerCELL t1_ja55ku2 wrote

Reading is great, but experiencing is even more impactful. You can read about racism, for example, but when you actually meet Black people, spend time with them, talk and eat with them, worship with them, listen to them, it has a bigger and longer lasting effect. It's like learning languages, you can Rosetta Stone all day, but get on a plane and actually go to the country and immerse yourself. Then you'll get it, often even without it being explained.

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BinstonBirchill t1_ja55k18 wrote

It’s definitely wild. It’s magical realism so to us many things that happen are strange, but in-world it’s just part of life. You never know what the rain may bring.

It’s among my favorites, I think I’ve read the first nine. Norwegian Wood is my favorite so far, that one does not have the bonkers world to contend with. Elegiac would be the word to describe that one.

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Amphy64 t1_ja53koj wrote

I'd definitely recommend SPQR as a starting point then, it really helped me put the pieces together later when references to Roman history came up in what I was reading, and there's a lot about the politics in it.

Religion as you mentioned above, a lot of writers in the Western canon are coming from Christian traditions, from Chaucer's corrupt and model religious officials in The Canterbury Tales, to vice, virtue and hypocrisy in Shakespeare's Measure for Measure, to Dickens' redemption of Scrooge in A Christmas Carol, to Trollope's examination of different approaches to Christianity in The Barchester Chronicles and also some of the Palliser series (which is more about the contemporary political structure. Trollope himself had tried to become a MP). Honestly, if you read just Anne Bronte's Agnes Grey, which is pretty short, think about how Agnes relates to contemporary ideas of Christian virtue (Anne especially is interested in these ideas, her sisters less so but it's still an aspect, they were the daughters of a clergyman) and about women's role, I'd guarantee you'd learn more than Peterson will ever teach you about how women actually lived (if reading fiction, don't forget to notice lower class women, who may not always feature prominently. Men too).

Life of Pi is a contemporary novel that's significantly about faith and its importance to people, and very quick to read - it can also be interpreted in terms of Jungian archetypes. Jungian models are much better for analysing literature than real people, though. I'm going to see the play streamed to cinema next month, and there's also a movie adaptation.

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TheeArcanian OP t1_ja53avp wrote

The plot is definitely bonkers. While I do intend to finish Kafka on the Share, I just wanted to know whether I was dumb or the plot was simply that complex. Especially because it’s my first book of this genre and the language used is definitely having me take more time than usual.

I’ll definitely add that to my TBR.

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Guy_montag47 t1_ja5338y wrote

? I don’t like Peterson or his conclusions. But I agree that the questions he is asking are important. I think that’s giving him more credit than you’re going to find from most in this thread.

Also, throwing my intelligence out there ?? OP asked for advice on writers who approach similiar themes as peterson etc. I gave him one and the reasons why. That should be the point of this thread.

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