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Tall-Display-8219 t1_j93qybp wrote

A private company publishing edited versions of fictional books is not the same as a totalitarian government seeking to alter peoples perception of reality by altering historical documents.

Consider the following: people are not being forced to read the new versions, the old versions are not being banned or outlawed by any government, this is just one publisher, the edits are minor and don't fundamentally change the stories, the books are fictional anyway so never represented the "truth" about anything to begin with.

So no... its not even remotely the same thing.

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reddit455 t1_j93qfyl wrote

i don't think you appreciate what Orwell probably had in mind.

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North Korea has the closest thing to IRL "Ministry of Truth"

this is the kind of truth their ministry provides

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_North_Korea

Paintings on the walls of the Sinchon Museum of American War Atrocities depict alleged atrocities carried out by American soldiers during the Korean War.

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South Korea is often depicted as a place of dangerous racial contamination.[27]

North Korean propaganda often invokes Koreans as the purest of races, with a mystical bond with the natural beauty of the landscape

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Romance is often depicted in stories as being triggered solely by the person's model citizenship, as when a beautiful woman is unattractive until a man learns she volunteered to work at a potato farm .[34]

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reddit455 t1_j93plce wrote

not sure I understand...

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you're suggesting that this

>destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.

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is equivalent to this?

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Augustus Gloop now ‘enormous’ instead of ‘fat’

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it's not false, the book is not rewritten, (a word is being replaced - with a synonym), Augustus is still a "big boy", is still named Agustus... and no dates have changed.

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are they vastly different than the version you remember?

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Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/18/roald-dahl-books-rewritten-to-remove-language-deemed-offensive

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In The Twits, Mrs Twit is no longer “ugly and beastly” but just “beastly”.

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In The Witches, a paragraph explaining that witches are bald beneath their wigs ends with the new line: “There are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that.”

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> but personally I can't ignore their similarity in light of the recent events

i don't put the Ministry of Truth in the same league as using a different word for fat.

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ImprobableGerund t1_j93i471 wrote

It gets crazier if you keep reading the series. Olaf starts to make more sense and your start to empathize with him and the kids start making questionable choices and start seeming to be more like the bad guys. There is evil, there are people that make no sense, and everyone thinks their bad choices are justified. It is unfortunate, but sometimes so is life.

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brickmaster32000 t1_j93fw5t wrote

Chess has only 6 types of pieces with absolutely no variations among the same pieces. Each piece has only ever has a limited number of possible paths, 27 at max but on average only 11. Yet after only 5 turns for both players there are 69,352,859,712,417 possible outcomes.

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