OSB is approved for flooring and siding, NOT roofing. If it gets wet at all, it’s trashed. Plywood should be used in any situation where they might be water intrusion.

Amazing, but expected. When I took ownership of my 1830s row home with pitched roof. I had two estimates, each for 8,000-10,000 to remove the old and install new. That was in 2001. Now you are saying the price is 3x that price. I have not done the work, but had a feeling and am was guessing a new roof will cost $20K, but I now have think of 30-40K. I had a flat roof on another row house, that cost 2K to simply add over extant, but that was in the 1990s.

We are in a new world of inflation, and we have to expect that everything will cost more. Workers deserve decent pay. Roofing is a crap job. Knowing car repair costs are up and many other home repairs too, I hope some of the higher cost is going into the workers pocket mot just owner's profits. Still so many white collar businesses seem to be able to pay their desk jockeys high salaries, they must be soaking their customers.

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It's a good question. I know some people in Early Childhood Dev. I'll ask them to check this thread (they're busy and don't reddit much as far as I'm aware so it's a longshot).

I’ve worked at UMB for 12 years and am also a PhD student there and LOVE it. Happy to answer any specific questions you might have!

Same experience, Keith is amazing.

probably just that person who walks around saying "because it's ridiculous" to everything lol.

"hey returnofseq.. what do you think about us getting some kittens? NO.. why? BECAUSE IT'S RIDICULOUS"

kept scrolling till i saw this.. there really can't be any other name besides this.

a bunch of yoked up dudes playing as a brotherhood, as a team.. THE BALTIMORE HONS..

fox news would do no less then 7000 segments on how males are being destroyed lmao

The Jones Falls

I want to see a league where steroids and other PEDs aren’t just allowed, they’re encouraged.

As a different sort of contractor the main issue I see (aside for any work promised not done, like the particle board) is that they did not explicitly tell you "When we take off the old roof we'll have to assess the damage. Typically repairs run $1000 - $15k but if we have to fully replace joists this can go as high as X".

What I've seen happen with burnt out contractors is they forget to do this part because 'they've seen it all before'. Yeah buddy, you have seen it all before and the client certainly has not. I suggest asking potential contractors questions that they will find redundant to gauge how they'll handle this kind of information in the future (Information you are likely not to categorically know about). When they say "We'll need to set up a scaffold" you say "Will the scaffold be tied to the building and will there be damage from that?" Just anything you can imagine for each step of the process; The process which you'll have to ask them to outline (Even normal contractors don't really do that unless asked typically).

The fact they had you over a barrel is a happy coincidence for them (I say 'happy' because it's their lack of understanding of how this adversely affects the client that is often a contributing factor (stupid or malicious or both, take your pick)); A comfortable position of investment (by you) that was hugely exacerbated by a lack of information and communication. There are always thoughtful contractors who will go out of their way to describe their process but unfortunately these are few compared to the kind you got.

The lack of turn signals had me beeping at people. I will quickly stop, because I don’t want to get shot in this city. Wish police would issue tickets.

I, too, used Brother's Roofing on a single family home sized roof. I consistently recommend them. People comment that they are expensive but, given my experience, I'd rather pay more up front than have to pay more later to fix their mistakes.

Thanks to the previous owner, when they pulled up the roof we had to replace SIX plywood boards and I think we paid an extra $500. The itemized list of work was 2 pages and the total was $13k or so. Came with a 25y, transferable warranty for materials and workmanship.

When I sold the house a few years later, the buyer's inspector tried to say our roof was sagging and suggested we replace the entire thing. I immediately called Brothers who sent someone out to check, for free, and tell the inspector (who, it turns out, didn't even get on the roof) to shove it.

I would pay "extra" for them 100 times out of 10.

I would normally say that contract violations are a pita to litigate and not worth the trouble, but this is the difference between spending 15k as negotiated, and 31k. That's well above small claims level of money.

Why we are going to reddit and not reaching out to the dozens of contact attorneys in the area idk.

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My friend used Shiflet and had terrible experience that including him throwing a tantrum over being asked to do work he had agreed upon to fix damage they had caused earlier in the project that lead him to abandon my friends roof and deck a few months in. They also didnt submit the correct plans or something for the deck so he 412 come in and they basically had redo everything. So you dodged a bullet avoiding him. They are very happy with 412.

They’re going to keep doing this to people because they got away with it without legal repercussions.

Brandon and Tom at TSW are both excellent people to work with. I’ve used them numerous times for my slate roof repairs.

Yea we have the same warranty and after 5 years they contact you for a re seal. Worth every penny I spent.

Yeah this was the problem. Even if they don't know the extent of a houses specific damage they have a pretty good idea of potential costs. And I can't imagine any situation (outside of adding in masonry work) where the cost doubles because of plywood and joists.

My wife did bctr something like 14 years ago. At the time it was linked with the city and the city paid 100% for her graduate degree up front. Now it sounds like you pay up front then get reimbursed a percentage but the program will get you teaching quickly and you get paid for a bulk of the time you are training.

I used to drive as well, and I've heard that from a variety of drivers. That sucks. 😔

Lake Roland and Falls Road Station.

I saw the band Battles open for Primus last year, and they describe themselves as an experimental math band.

Had something similar with Arocon. Asked them to repair a few small things, and add a downspout. They said they only do a $300 tune up service, at which time they’d have a look at everything and give me a quote.

They came out. Did the service. Lead guy told me that they would advise a quote for a new roof. I said, “I just want these other things but if want to write up a quote for a new roof feel free but I absolutely can’t afford it.”

Emails back with a quote for a new roof and the other work. I emailed back, “again, no thank you on the roof. Just the other work, please.”

Guy says “okay but that quote was discounted because I thought we’d be putting a new roof on. Here’s the quote for just that other work.”

Of course it’s 7 times what the original cost was. I get that you’re running a business, but that’s crazy. Alternately, if it’s just not worth it to do the work just tell me that.