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Thank you for this topic!! I have been thinking of this since hearing of this situation and still surprised No One is talking about it on the news (that I heard).

I'll have to fully read this thread to get a better grasp. And if anyone has any articles/papers to read, I'd love to know them.

Emphasis I know Nothing about all this. Engineering and Altitudes, nothing lol. What I was curious about would a high altitude balloon parachute be able to work with this? I saw that mentioned researching high altitude balloons. I wasnt sure if there was a way to attach it to the balloon to help with the decent?

Its just hard to believe that we didn't atleast try something to do a controlled decent to capture it mostly intact. With everything the government and private sector have. But please excuse any stupidity on my part with any of this, lol still far more I need to learn about this.

Note that the common cold is often caused by rhinovirus, though some coronaviridae can also be responsible. And it's not just a matter of competition, it's also a matter of measures taken to curb the spread of respiratory diseases curbing the spread of respiratory diseases.

I didn't read the question that way at all. I took it as "why did they think that at the time, and what have we learned since then about why they were wrong?"

Seriously. They might as well be saying "last week the weatherman said it would be sunny but NOW they're saying I'll need an umbrella tomorrow?! Those idiots who study weather are obviously useless and don't know what they're talking about!" Except instead of just risking getting soaked, they're playing games with a goddamn virus.

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Yeah, it’s like people who complain about how the rules for masking “changed constantly.” Well, when you’re learning new things about a disease, countermeasures are going to change, and also it didn’t help that a substantial percentage of people (including in state and federal government leaders), actively ignored the guidance for idiotic reasons.

Smog or other gases that are inhaled can enter the systemic blood stream and cause oxidative stress to the circulatory system or blood vessels. The particles causing damage to the lining of the vessels or the sacs in the lungs will initiate the inflammatory response and cause cellular mediators such as platelets & fibrin, to heal the damaged wall. This causes the vessels to narrow or form plaques overtime and can obstruct blood flow to the heart/brain. A piece of the plaque can also rip off and travel to the brain and obstruct blood flow that way as well.

Problem is it wasn't designed to display fractions of proton masses. What gives it that pixelated look is that each isotope has an integer coordinate, since its coordinates are defined via number of nucleids vs number of protons.

Now the muon is only 11% of the proton mass, so that breaks the nice grid pattern. It also has a charge of -1 so that doesn't really correspond to the protons charge of +1.

You could modify the table, so the axis are total mass vs electrical charge. In that scheme muonium would go below the neutron line.

PS: Here is an interactive version of the table

For me, I knew it was never going away when they said it was a coronavirus. I had recently done some reading on the Spanish Flu that took me into that rabbit hole I call "hyperlinks" (can get lost for hours). When they said "coronavirus", I said "And those would be part of our seasonal colds and flus, and they just keep mutating but don't actually die off."

I told that to someone and they said "Oh, big lady with the crystal ball!". Yeah. Dude. It's a coronavirus. I didn't need one.

I never bought into "It's going to be OVER". I was just resigned to it from the get go. I haven't decided if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Both of those links were fascinating, I hadn’t heard that omicron probably jumped species!

I do wonder, in a perfect world if everyone adhered to a three-week quarantine, just how many different strains of viruses or bacterial diseases we could have eliminated.

I somehow never heard that. I remember hearing Omicron came out of left field and it was thought to have evolved in an immunocompromised patient due to the sheer number of mutations. I thought Alpha and Beta were two notable strains that were more successful than other small mutations. Now that I look though, I see AB both have a significant number of mutations, just the spike was mostly unchanged.

Fascinating. I studied some microbiology/immunology in school, I would’ve liked to have delved deeper.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8714679/#:~:text=delta)%2C%20B.-,1.1.,of%20these%20variants%20%5B1%5D.

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

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This has been my biggest takeaway as well. We've always adjusted as new data became available.

Thanks for this.

One mark of good, real science at work is when a prediction, based on evidence, is shown to be incorrect and scientists update the predictions with the new data.

Complaints about scientists "not being 100% certain" and "they keep changing what they're saying" are red flags revealing people who do not understand how science works and why the scientific method is so important to everything we have today.

If Alpha had evolved gradually the UK or Denmark would have seen it with their massive surveillance programs. No one's reported an Alpha-in-progress.

Alpha had far more than the expected number of mutations and was materially different in behavior. Fortunately it didn't matter for vaccine targeting.

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Then there is things like Ebola, which often only cause infections *after* the patient has died.

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Oh gosh, this is the direction I was going! This is very neat, and I big appreciate the answer! Thank you!

I do have a question. To quick preface, my life is Lifing™ right now, so apologies if this is not very clear or based on correct thinking.

I recently came to learn about muonium. Recognizing both muonium is a recent development, and that it is fairly "exotic" in its components, I am curious about where it would end up on the table of nuclides. Using Wikipedia's table for simplicity, the top left "Z→" indicates the atomic number (right?) and thus, in ordinary matter, the number of protons (yes?). Does (or would) the atomic number of muonium equal to that of hydrogen then (in that although there are no protons, the charge of both is the same)? In short, this question is trying to ask how would muonium plug into the table?