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pala4833 t1_j5114k3 wrote

What's fear mongering about sharing collected intelligence about such attacks? You need to read the article. The FBI isn't fear mongering about whether or not they're planning to take down the electrical grid. They're saying they have evidence that that's exactly what they're planning and video of the acts in progress.

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glitterkittyn OP t1_j510u7o wrote

Some people (white supremacists) have fantasies of a racist dystopian civil war, and they don’t care if you want to be involved or not. It’s accelerationist terrorist gangs (at least in Canada they call them what they are https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx) like boogaloo bois, Atomwaffen Division, 3%ers, Patriot Front and Proud Boys. They’re either testing their “plans” for their race/gov war or THIS IS their planned nationwide attack.

Their goal? From the 2nd article below: “The facts stipulated by the men paint a goal of racist dystopia, in which an armed attack on power grids would cause confusion, economic upheaval, and unrest - ripe conditions for a "revolutionary force." the documents state.”

This is plain homemade domestic terrorism. Like the terrorists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. It’s racists and anti government gangs trying to start a civil war.

Here’s some regular guys just last year making plans to attack substations.

Article: Three men, one from Ohio, pleaded guilty to federal terrorism charges after admitting their plans to attack the power grid “in furtherance of white supremacist ideology,” according to documents unsealed Wednesday.

Christopher Brenner Cook, 20, of Columbus, Ohio; Jonathan Allen Frost, 24, of West Lafayette, Indiana, and of Katy, Texas; and Jackson Matthew Sawall, 22, of Oshkosh, Wisconsin, each pleaded guilty to one count of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists.

Court records show they entered their pleas Feb. 7. Each man faces a 15-year maximum sentence and up to a $250,000 fine.

The facts stipulated by the men paint a goal of racist dystopia, in which an armed attack on power grids would cause confusion, economic upheaval, and unrest — ripe conditions for a “revolutionary force,” the documents state.

They were each assigned their own substation in different parts of the country to attack. The court filings do not specify the locations of the substations.

“There were also conversations about how the possibility of the power being out for many months could cause some serious change or straight out war, even a race war; additionally, that without power across the country, it could cause the next Great Depression, people wouldn’t show up to work, the economy could crash and there would be a ripe opportunity for potential (white) leaders to rise up,” the documents state.

The men discussed using explosive devices to distract law enforcement as officers respond to any siege.

Frost sought to provide rifles for the men, including by building them himself with parts he purchased online, according to court records. He also bought a rifle in Texas with no serial number, known as a “ghost gun,” and brought it to Columbus in February 2020 for Cook.

At the time, the three met to plan their assault. Sawall and Cook bought spray paint which they used to paint a swastika flag at an unspecified park with the caption “Join the Front” — a pseudonym for their online chat group. A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s office declined to provide the photo or specify which Columbus park this occurred in.

In August 2020, FBI agents raided their home and found weapons and Nazi and white supremacist material.

Of the former: Agents found a tactical magazine and various camouflage jackets in Cook’s home along with a “recently acquired, but not yet assembled” rifle. In Frost’s home, they found multiple riffles, suppressors, gun components, and chemicals that FBI testing concluded “could be used to create an explosive device.” Other court records show a long list of seized weapons, ammunition, chemicals, and electronic devices.

Of the latter: Agents found in Cook’s bedroom a copy of the book “Siege.” The court documents don’t specify the author, although the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, says “Siege” was written by neo-Nazi James Mason and pushes for violent extremism. The book appeared on a list of suggested reading for people he tried to recruit, per court documents, along with “A Squire’s Trial” — which bears a swastika on its cover.

Were the men to get caught, they discussed making “suicide necklaces” filled with fentanyl, a powerful opiate. Frost provided such necklaces to Cook and Sawall, the latter of whom swallowed his pill during a police stop after their Columbus meeting but ultimately survived.

All three await sentencing. Attorney information for the three was not available on a public court database as of Wednesday evening.

“These three defendants admitted to engaging in a disturbing plot, in furtherance of white supremacist ideology, to attack energy facilities in order to damage the economy and stoke division in our country,” said Assistant Attorney General for National Security Matthew G. Olsen in a news release. “The Justice Department is committed to investigating and disrupting such terrorist plots and holding perpetrators accountable for their crimes.”

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/02/24/three-men-plead-guilty-to-plotting-a-white-supremacist-attack-on-power-grid/

It’s a really fucked up way to say you don’t believe in democracy as well as a big fuck you to the rest of us that DO believe in democracy and the rule of law. Can’t say that these accelerationists are making any friends by interrupting power and killing the citizens. A person died in the Moore attack. The power companies (they’re not fans of their $ and property damaged) and the Gov will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law if they can find the people that did this.

I wonder if they know they’re going to get caught? This was from 2016 and this guy comes off a little bumbling but the tech exists to find who did these attacks https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-baltimore-secret-surveillance/?leadSource=uverify%20wall

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nhn95 t1_j50y9mi wrote

Reply to comment by enztinkt in Any affordable housing by ProdigyofOne

Are you union? I'm a commercial electrician (apprentice, non union) in Oklahoma but journeymen only get around $30/hr so i thought about relocating once I'm a journeyman myself

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wildskies2525 OP t1_j50t1xe wrote

Franklin Ghost Town, just outside of Black Diamond Washington. I'm a docent with the musuem in town and help lead tours of the site. Also do studies of the Green River Gorge and the surrounding areas, mostly geology stuff but pretty much everything. If you ever want a tour of the museum or the town or any of the coal mines, don't hesitate to reach out.

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AliveAndThenSome t1_j50sx49 wrote

I saw a cop in North Bend last evening with its lights out when it was raining and the sun was nearly down, if not already -- hard to tell with all the clouds and mountains.

I've said this many times, but cars need to have either fully-automatic headlights or an obvious warning light on the dash when headlights should be on. Too many people see their dashboard lights on with some puny DRLs and think they're good to go, when in fact their headlights and taillights are out. Only when they get into a completely dark area might they notice they can't see sh*t.

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Doughop t1_j50enue wrote

My old Toyota is lights always on with no way to turn it off. My motorcycles, including ones from the 90s are lights always on.

I was surprised to learn than newer cars aren't lights always on and I don't understand why.

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