You assume much.

Check out the Bellingham area. It’s a cool small city with access to lots of trail systems like Larrabee state park. Olympic peninsula is also good that time of year, you could visit the Quinault and Ho rainforest. Mountains are a no-go that time of year

I think you miss my point. This law won't modify behaviors. People aren't going to drink more or less, nor will they make different decisions about driving, and alcohol-related collisions will not go down. The only thing that will change is how a person is handled when pulled over. Yes, this will translate into higher numbers in stats, but not real-world behavior.

I never said that or even implied it. Stop trying to create an argument that isn't there.

Agree. What’s the point lowering the limit when you’ve got people who have 3, 4, 5+ DUIs that still have licenses. Increase the penalty so people follow the current limit better. And take away driving privileges when they habitually break the law driving.

Nice change of subject, and a pivot to shame. Do you think we should abolish anything that increases accident rates or not?

And then tripping becomes a crutch to get through daily life. Next thing you know, people are microdosing every day, and it becomes abused.

I speak from experience with these types of people. One of my old roommates was like this and had multiple suicide attempts. The psychedelics were just another way to escape what he was really going through. We need people who are grounded in reality, not with their heads up in the clouds.

The actual question that needs to be asked is: Does data suggest that moving the needle down by .03 will cause less accidents?

Also, unless you own a breathalyzer, what is .08 or .05 anyway? Is that actually going to make people drive drunk less or is it going to cause more suffering on the other end because more people are getting DUIs?

Seems like there is bigger fish to fry, like IDK, people who do 20+ over the speed limit every time they drive anywhere.

I would head out to the Olympic Peninsula this time of year. You'll still be able to hike up many of the lower-elevation river trails. You can probably drive up the Hurricane Ridge road in Olympic National Park as well and get up into the snow.

How about keep the limit the same. First DUI, mandatory year suspension of driver’s license. Second DUI, mandatory 90 day jail sentence and 18 month suspension of license. Third DUI, mandatory year in prison and lifetime revocation of license.

Who said anything about banning? It sounds like you literally cannot avoid alcohol if you are around it. There's nothing wrong whatsoever with the suggestion that if you're driving, just don't drink. Nothing. You have self control or you don't. It sounds like you don't.

This would in fact vastly increase drunk driving by redefining it.

Sure. Neither was “medical” booze during prohibition or “medical” marijuana.

Sure, right after we roll out European level dense and frequent public transit, across the entire state.

How about driving with arguing kids in the back? I definitely think we should ban that. And I'm not providing any support either, just emptily implying anyone who disagrees is bad.

Even in cities the transit shuts down before the bars. In anyplace rural, there is no transit.

Tossing someone in jail because they had 3 IPAs over the course of an evening at a friends house and then drove home on an empty road at 1 am is absurd.

That’s part of it, there is a huge difference between trying to manage city and highway traffic and a country road where you won’t see another car.

.08 does that. If you redefine drunk, the question is circular. Set it at .0001, you'll find even more "drunks".

There would need to be some strong science on this to convince me, and so far all I see is hysterical moralism, and by God, we're full up on that at the moment.

So one beer if it’s the kind people around here actually drink?

So without vastly expanding public transit in a way that simply won’t happen, this is either going to lead to a vastly higher number of DUIs, and/or cops starting to ignore people being over the limit, at their discretion.

Because it’s not like cops are having two bud lights on a night out.

Yup, not worth it either.

No, but eliminating drunk drivers-even religious ones—is a great idea.

You don't have to drink alcohol just because it's there. You also probably shouldn't eat while driving, either.

If you don’t already have a court date, ask for mitigation of the ticket by mail. If this is your first ticket you may be able to get it deferred (basically a lower payment to the court in exchange for keeping your driving record clean for a future period of time. I.E. probation). You’ll need to be careful in future though, because if you get another ticket you will then have to pay the full amount of both tickets. Other than that, you may be able to explain to the judge your financial hardship and they will possibly decrease the amount and put you on a payment plan for any fines levied. Good luck!

San Diego has objectively better weather than Seattle. If you don't believe that then you are delusional.

I live in the NW corner of the state. Housing prices are ridiculous here too, and very few are making 150k.

Because California is a small state and the climate is the same everywhere