Why was the orphane crushing machine nessesary? They are not doing this out of the goodness of their own hearts, they see the writing on the wall and do not government to impose perscription pricing reform.

I like your approach.

This reminds me of an old post about pet fish that was along the lines of "imagine that you're chilling and it just starts raining food"

First you need to put your tits out, like the cows do.

Working on a Lilly plant now, it's a shit show. Every step of the way, they talk about values, but every decision is money based

Converting current infrastructure to accommodate that might not be very feasible. But planning future projects with this in mind is completely reasonable. We already have a data center in Helsinki that's providing heating for up to 20 000 apartments.

I mean better late than never. Also the pressure is from California deciding enough was enough and the state government making their own for like $25-35 a bottle. So people could just buy from them. I could see California eventually setting up nationwide shipping.

I bet they are trying to bury that fact with their "sudden" altruism.

Public pressure works, let’s speed this up.

I will never consider anything big pharma does as uplifting news.

The real story is the greed not the sudden price change after ALOT of pressure and bad publicity.

We’re going to be reaching the limit of what traditional cooling methods like CRAC units are capable of with those densities. I hope to see more liquid cooling applications or other solutions like rear doors that aren’t as prevalent as traditional CRACs.

But you also get brutal winters, so it was out of necessity not just efficiency. NOT having heat could be deadly there

With server farms they create heat, it's the opposite problem that exacerbates itself. Then they use more power to cool them which creates more heat, more refuse.

Should we dig up all the concrete roads and run pipes across buildings? That will never happen.

We should be making servers that run cooler by making the chips a certain size, and by creating chips which are more specialized rather than having 16 core computers that can do everything.

The same server that runs google can run Doom, that makes no sense to me.

Also I love Finland and bless you all.

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Tons of cooling. That’s what I do for a living

In Finland we do have a pretty efficient way of transporting heat. It's called district heating and plenty of houses in larger towns are getting their heating through that. Basically it's very well insulated water pipes going around the city. Actually 46 percent of residential and service buildings in Finland are heated by that.

I note that it's not just a basic data store, they're using it for AI and machine learning - these are extremely intensive activities and it's very plausible for that to generate a ton of heat.

That sounds like an enormous waste of resources. We don't have an efficient way to transport heat, it travels through matter.

They're going to make insurance claims for all the cows they lost too.

On the other hand, as an animal lover, I'm just glad the cows are getting fed.

Yep. My city has a central heat system. Among other things, cooling for the ice rink is used to heat the swimming hall and sidewalks downtown.

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A washing machine is about 39" according to google. Nvidias DGX H100 systems use 11kw and are 14" tall. That is definitely in the ballpark of the pool heaters I find on google for pools of size 40 - 120m3.

Rack power density has been balooning the last few years. Typical power consumption was ~5kw per 42u rack for like a decade. Now we are nearing 20kw average. Compute oriented systems for AI workloads and whatnot pack 60kw+ per rack. A lot of older datacenters have to run half full racks because their central cooling system can't deal with the heat of full ones anymore.

The pussywillows!!

The same assholes who like to think of themselves as rugged individuals who pull themselves by their own bootstraps. Wait til you hear about Sunkist being a farmer co-op and a successful one at that

If you utilized the heat from all data centers to provide heat elsewhere, you’d reduce the amount spent to heat those places.

It’s still a massive win