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[deleted] t1_jb3q1fe wrote

Where did I say there wasn’t a problem? There is very definitely a problem, but it’s also useless to make completely hyperbolic and hysterical statements like “the ocean will be extinct by 2030”.

It’s utterly inaccurate, defeatist statements like that which have completely discredited the real climate change facts that scientists have been trying to warn us about for decades. Every time a blatant mis truth about the apocalypse is bandied about, it throws the veracity of everything into question. ‘if that’s so obviously wrong, what else are they lying about?’.

The article itself even states that the UN predicts that 10% of marine life is at risk of extinction. 10% is a lot different to ‘the ocean will be extinct by 2030’. There is more life in the ocean than you can possibly imagine, and yes, we are massively impacting fish stocks, and yes there are deep concerns about unsustainable fishing and pollution and the like, but there is also a wealth of evidence that shows preserving just 30% of a particular waterway can vastly improve marine health in the area (look up Palau and how they saved their ocean, their fishermen and their economy in one fell swoop).

The ocean will NOT be extinct in 7 years. Will we see extinctions in 7 years? yes we will. But even if we drove tuna to oblivion, that doesn’t mean the entire ocean ecosystem will be a barren wasteland in 7 years. People have been predicting massive apocalyptic extinctions for decades, and here we still are, preserving ecosystems, bringing animals back from the brink, working together to improve sustainability and green consumption. There is a long way ti go, and this is an incredible, momentous, world-changing agreement that will only bring benefits. Stop cheapening it with insane generalisations about total extinction. Enough already.

Shelve your hand wringing and existential dread and channel it into educating yourself and empowering societies to adopt these sorts of measures.

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bermudaliving t1_jb3n80x wrote

I should calm down about majority of scientific research coming to the same conclusion?

Please remind me in 5 years time how much sea life is left in order to feed the 4 billion people who depend on it.

By 2030 the human population will grow to 8.5 billion. Where is this extra food coming from?

The lakes across the western coast of United States are on the brink of extinction. Same goes for many lakes across the planet as we speak.

I’m not sure why it’s so hard to see this isn’t a pretty picture humanity is facing.

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bermudaliving t1_jb3m1ru wrote

Yes but it’s all tied together.

Climate change, over fishing, pollution is all linked to the demise of the ocean.

Scientists are expecting the ocean to collapse right around the same time governments are planning to protect areas?

Imo its uplifting, but as we speak countries are also blatantly ignoring similarly treaties.

We need bigger change.

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bermudaliving t1_jb3lnwe wrote

I was actually out fishing. Check out “doomsday clock” and what’s changed in the last 5 years. I’m pro protecting the ocean I’m just stating that it’s not going to put a dent into the shit storm we’re about to face. More so if we’re waiting until 2030 after several decades of “talking”.

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