Guess who won't abide by the restrictions: Every asian country. They're not abiding by current restrictions. This is a feel good, useless bit of ink on paper...unless there are real teeth, and money for enforcement applied.

You're not a cool edgy person for saying you wouldn't care about several billion deaths.

We're literally living through a mass extinction mate. It'd be weird if they were positive.

Any evidence outside of "that sounds crazy and I can't imagine it happening"?

Where’s the seaQuest DSV to enforce this?

Sorry to say this, but that's so incredibly naive. It's reported that China is responsible for 25% of the entire world's illegal fishing. They've been caught fishing within the Galapagos Islands - you don't need the UN to tell you not to do that. And they're known to constantly turn off their tracking devices right before entering illegal waters (over many many places in the world). So yea they'll just continue to tell you what you want to hear and then not comply.

You can't fish 70% of the seas to extinction and expect the 30% to be ok.

You've got to go full cheese, not medium

The "by 2030" part doesn't signal to me we are thinking this is a crisis right now.

This is how natural fish sanctuaries already work

And believe it or not, it's actually beneficial for both the ecosystem and humans.

us has entered the chat

We are eating all life on this planet to death.

So its purpose is to be an ocean regulator? Should have just named it ‘aqua police’.

Correct! The ocean will not be extinct in seven years. Or fifty for that matter! The ocean is an excellent environment for biodiversity. There will always be some aspect of life inhabiting it.

However, every year, more irreversible damage is done to the ocean. The carrying capacity of the ocean has long been exceeded by humanity's consumption of seafood alone, never mind anything else that depends on it for resources. In the current century, there has been an extremely worrying downtrend in the seasonal regeneration of sea-life.

Needless to say, every year of inaction is another sprint closer to the approaching cataclysmic disaster that will be the collapse of the ocean as a food source. We need to start slowing humanity's approach down as soon as possible, and seven years is not an insignificant amount of time.

Right, it would be naïve to blindly assume China is going to do the right thing, but it's also cartoonish to assume China is completely ungenuine about their environmental goals.

I don't think their motives are pure and altruistic, but I think they are at least somewhat serious about environmental reform.

The Chinese government is untrustworthy and malevolent in a lot of ways, but they're not stupid. Their geopolitical dream is to become the world's biggest superpower and leading economy. They're looking ten, twenty, fifty years down the line, and they're conscious that for that dream to come true, there needs to be a world worth leading in.

And you rather the UN do..what? it has no power

Amazing demonstration! Hydrogen will shape out to be one of the best transition/long term combustion fuels we have as it's prinary by-product is simply water vapor in addition to the fact that hydrogen can be made using zero-emission energy sources.

In the case of transportation (hydrogen-powered vehicles), it might not be too practical however. Storage of the fuel is a major design considerations. The article was not too clear about the form of hydrogen the aircraft used (gaseous or liquid hydrogen). Liquid hydrogen (LH2) is somewhat practical as it occupies a fairly small volume, but it is cryogenic. A storage tank must be well-insulated as well as contain boiloff bleed valves (very similar design to the fuel tanks on a rocket). High-pressure gaseous hydrogen (GH2) is another option where the fuel is stored as compressed hydrogen gas (upwards to 6000 psi if not higher). Big issue is that you are then contending with hydrogen embrittlement (the hydrogen will quite literally seep into the metal of the pressure vessel and reduce the strength of the metal. This can be prevented through careful choice of material.

Regardless, this is fascenating and a great step forward to making air travel more environmentally friendly. The aforementioned design considerations will be dealt with and hydrogen will be a clean and dependable option to fuel combustion engines with.

Please, all this doom and gloom. The best and worst possible scenario is humanity dying off because of our own stupidity, but nature and earth will be far longer lasting than humans probably ever will

But how do you get rid of the arrest?

Them being a driver of it doesn't mean they will abide by it. They have made agreements in the past only to break it after the other party upholds their part and withdraws.

I would expect them to continue to overfish in these areas, knowing that every other nation won't be. They view the whole world as their own, and care very little for the environment, so this would be very on brand for China.

Or completely encircle the 30% and wait for potential escapee's

> The internet is also hurting people’s ability to grasp nuance.

I absolutely agree with this, and I think that extends to logic too. (Too often ‘not A’ is taken to mean ‘B’, when it could be any other letter.)

I also think a factor is that Reddit has attracted more younger people, particularly teenagers, who tend to naturally be a bit more contrarian and absolutist. This means that the top comments often tend to be the opposite of the post.

Which leads me on to my other point which is I think that a lot of the recent influx of users don’t really understand or care about subs, so just see something on their front page and interact with it in the same way.

So a positive sub like this gets doubly hit.

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> The point is if there’s more people you see on reddit that feel like doomers, maybe that’s simply because there’s more people lol.

I’m not sure that logic holds though, as you’d also expect to see more positive people to counterbalance that.

I think the proportion of unwaveringly negative people has increased.

I think it’s due to a demographic shift in Reddit users as much as anything, but have no real way of knowing.

"but we didnt agree completely with the treaty, so we dont have to abide by it" -some UN country in 2029.

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