Iirc most manufacturers are phasing out ice cars by 2030 anyway

The bottom line is that it is still a bit of a luxury and for many people out of the question just because of where they live and not having as much infrastructure in place. As time goes on, that may change as EVs and the infrastructure become more prevalent but we aren't there yet. The question I have is whether a synthetic fuel of some sort (especially something existing cars can easily be converted to) come to market prior to a full move to EV.

Pretty sure the battery cells and battery management system is an EV is a bit more advanced than your phone.

There are tons of EVs with well over 100k mile and 90%+ of the original range.

I'm not anti-EV, but the basic math doesn't add up, and as soon as you point out something like this, you're a shill for big oil. Looking at a few models, Hybrid vs. EV of the same vehicle, there is still a $10K difference in price.

With the way governments and corporations act this will only be an excuse to make them more expensive

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By a lot? The average EV price is 66k while the average ICE vehicle is 44k. Even at 50 bucks a week in gas it would take 10 years to make up the difference

Related, there have been breakthroughs with lithium-air batteries which will reach energy density similar to gas.

Automotive and Oil companies have created the problem. To bad we can't make them fix it.

Not because EV’s are getting cheaper, but because ICE cars are just getting more expensive

Plowy McPlowface was taken?

The batteries in my last cell phone lasted 5 years before they couldn't be charged anymore. Had to get a new phone.

My last gas car lasted 23 years.

$ (EV + electricity ) is lower than $ (ice car + gasoline) already, by a lot. That doesn't include maintenance.

I wish they'd make it 2030.
I'd also like to see electric cars becoming cheaper. Especially in countries with high taxes on them.

Could = Wont

Anyone who tries to steal someone else's baby is a fucking parasite. If they are so selfish and absorbed in their own grief that they disregard the grief of the BABY'S ACTUAL FAMILY that THEY would be causing -- not some natural disaster -- they can go to Hell. You don't comp your grief by making grief for others. I stand by calling that parasitic.

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My husband calls this “cowboy casserole.”

What I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to ignore the elephant in the room. Capitalism needs endless growth. The 3.2 projection is by no means static. There's really no reason tens, if not hundreds of millions of people need to suffer so capitalists can continue to keep making money.

That's not something anyone should be interested in seeing happen.

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A portion becoming inhabitable beats the entire planet becoming inhabitable, what are you talking about? You're saying extinction is the same as a 3c raise in temperature.

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The point of mentioning the carbon footprint is to call BP hypocrites because they were the ones that created it

It's always been profitable for one entity or another

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