You're a dumb asshole. They don't want the right to run their own lives, they want the right to run others lives. Seriously, how fucking stupid are you?

so the people in the other states finally got to run their lives and they decided to use their choice to make stiffer abortion restrictions....oh you didnt really mean run their own lives. your imperial attitude will eventually destroy the empire. people have a right to self government. suck it.

You're literally saying that you want the "reasonable person" standard to define when a woman meets the criteria for the life of the mother exemption your ideal law would allow for. If that's how you want the law to read, then it will be up to the judiciary to decide where the line is. Every time a woman gets an abortion to save her life, she'll be gambling that a judge agrees with her that she's being reasonable.

How do you expect that to play out without a judge deciding whether she's being reasonable?

>So you are also against the military, schooling, and police then? Those are careers that they don't get a say as to how much risk they put themselves under.

I'm against the draft, yes. And forcing people to be police officers. People can choose to take that risk.

>When you get pregnant, you have agreed to take this risk.

Unless she didn't want to get pregnant...

And you point out that a normal risk from pregnancy is way less than 1%. So when a woman gets a condition that increases that risk to 1%, that's more risk than she wanted to take.

At the end of the day you're position is to impose your risk tolerance on others.

Sounds like a christian nationalist- a NatC

Lol very true

I applied for a career advisor position in November and scored 100. Mid February I received an email that they are not able to fill the position. Two weeks later, I see the exact same position posted again.

Don’t wish that on the kids or the other teachers 😂😂😂😢😢😢

Dropping in for Trivia Night at 1787.

Yeah yeah, I'm a dad 2 school districts away. Shut up.

Sounds like Allison has a lot of time on her hands to criticize other people just doing the best they can to help as many kids as they can.

Maybe she should go back to college and become a teacher. Maybe do a little “mile in their shoes” kind of thing.

I work in a school, so let me get that out there from the start.

1. SEL has always been in schools in some way, just more specific these days because of several reasons A. Kids are emotionally and socially “different” as a result of the pandemic. B. Some Parents are not holding kids accountable for their actions in school, and have consistently bashed schools & teachers with ridiculous claims & misinformation they’ve heard on Fox & others
2. Schools do not indoctrinate kids. We discuss issues that kids bring to us, and try to help them navigate their thoughts, feelings and emotions. It’s a slippery slope, but in some cases…we’re the only ones they can trust.
3. Per latter part of #2 above, some kids want to discuss topics with us because they feel they can’t discuss those topics with their parents.
4. Public Schools are not Religious-based, so if your child or you as a parent want that, check yourself into a parochial school.
5. We want to partner with you because if there’s a disconnect…the kids get confused & we have mass chaos.

It’s not about us Vs. them…it truly isn’t. But if we have kids who don’t value others, treat each other with respect & kindness, follow rules & respect the adults…we’ll have no chance of teaching them anything.

PS - I find it odd that most people who claim schools are indoctrinating kids & pushing all of these “scary” things haven’t stepped foot in a school for years. Instead of going on the news, suing districts, ranting on social media…go get your teaching degree & sub or get a teaching job. You can “fix it” from within if it’s truly broken - There is a teaching shortage in PA! But we all know that doesn’t fit their narrative so 🤷

Taking down balloons it’s cheaper with a rotor blade than a $400,000 missile

Lol ok kid

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> Liberals don't want to kill me though

I fear with 1% of my being that they do though. So it's justifiable. :)

Liberals don't want to kill me though

It really sucks you had to go through that, but at least it wasn't worse

Same, never in my life did I expect to be with someone who needed an abortion, but my wife just did.

We are trying to have a second child, but unfortunately we found out there were a multitude of issue with the baby at around 13 weeks. The issues, including heart, neck and head malformations were caused by a chromosomal translocation.

If the baby made it to term quality of life would have been extremely low, and they would likely only live a few days or at most a couple years. We made the not so easy decision to end the pregnancy.

It was bad enough in this state, the doctor had to read some legal documents, had to offer to show us photos of fetuses, wait 24 hours, and sign paperwork saying that we understood everything. I could not imagine what others have to go through in some states. And forcing someone to go to term like that is simply pure evil.

Oh, that sounds logical. Thanks! More curious than anything. I certainly don't have warrants out of Maryland....

That's cool though. I just wonder who chopper #2 belonged to.

I can sympathize, sometimes I wanna fuck off for 30 years too.

> Who else defines the legal standard of "reasonable person"? In practice, that standard is defined by a judge.

Judges don't make laws. Government (elected by the people) make them.

> But you believe that a woman should be legally forbidden from removing a fetus if she doesn't want it to use her body... You're contradicting yourself. Either you believe that she should be able to control whether the fetus uses her body, or you believe that the fetus has a legal right to her body. You can't believe both.

You are trying to use the violinist discussion here.

> You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist’s circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but] in nine months he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you.

Yes?

> I believe that each person should get to define how much risk they want to take with their body. That a woman should not be legally required to take even that small risk.

So you are also against the military, schooling, and police then? Those are careers that they don't get a say as to how much risk they put themselves under.

When you get pregnant, you have agreed to take this risk.

> I certainly don't believe that the government should define an acceptable level of risk for an individual.

I'm sorry you don't want to fit into a society with laws. Thank you for your input, but this statement betrays your calm vernacular. If you don't agree with laws that limit risk to people, then I don't see any purpose of continuing with this conversation.

> So killing conservatives is justifiable. Thank you for this clarification.

No problem. It's as justifiable as killing liberals. Not at all. But you already knew that.

Welp, guess we’ll have to toss science out.

Probably training.